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Old 08-12-2017, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Baker City, Oregon
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Here's a little more info. The emergency buzzer doesn't indicate which of 3 elevators it's coming from, so when personnel went to follow up on the buzzes, they didn't check the elevator they knew was not operational. Somehow, the man got in there from the parking lot, having wandered in from a nearby nursing home.

An investigation into the death by the Denver Police Department revealed that Komisarchik pushed the emergency button twice during an 8-minute span on July 6 but got no response, The Denver Post reported Thursday.
The calls went to MEI Total Elevator Solutions, which reported them to the apartment complex, Woodstream Village. Apartment complex staffers checked two elevators, but not the one containing Komisarchik
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This makes more sense. I handle the elevator problems in our condo building.

Emergency buttons are usually part of a hands-free telephone system. It dials a special number of the elevator maintenance company and a person whose sole job is to receive these calls answers. He or she talks to the caller to determine what the problem is. If there is a problem a technician is sent out.

The problem is almost all of the time there is no problem. Somebody either pushed the button out of curiosity or by mistake, or most often, kids do it because they think it is a funny prank. When this happens the elevator company just calls somebody in the building.

There is a good chance the the man with dementia pushed the button and then got confused and maybe said nothing. Or maybe he just pushed every button he could see not knowing one of them was an emergency button.
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Old 08-12-2017, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Dessert
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Um, he died "between July 6 and Aug 2"?

So he was missing AND the elevator was not used for nearly a month?
was this elevator in a closed building or something?



Ah, I see this got answered, it was a broken elevator. Maybe it should have been locked.

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Old 08-13-2017, 01:27 PM
 
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Do you have any idea how many people traveled in elevators in this country on Friday alone? Nearly every building over 3 stories tall has an elevator, they are constantly in motion full of people. That has to literally be millions or perhaps billions of people on that one day alone. How many died on Friday in an elevator accident?

Good grief.
And?

Doesn't change the anything for me. I do not get in elevators. Elevators are death traps.
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Old 08-13-2017, 01:31 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Um, he died "between July 6 and Aug 2"?

So he was missing AND the elevator was not used for nearly a month?
was this elevator in a closed building or something?



Ah, I see this got answered, it was a broken elevator. Maybe it should have been locked.
Right. Well, apparently someone didn't feel it was necessary to lock it, because it was inside a big parking garage that was closed for construction of some kind. Still, you have a point; anyone could (and did, sadly) wander in. It could have been kids exploring, and getting trapped, anything can happen. People in positions of responsibility need to bear in mind the "anything can happen" factor.
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Old 08-13-2017, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Right. Well, apparently someone didn't feel it was necessary to lock it, because it was inside a big parking garage that was closed for construction of some kind. Still, you have a point; anyone could (and did, sadly) wander in. It could have been kids exploring, and getting trapped, anything can happen. People in positions of responsibility need to bear in mind the "anything can happen" factor.
Given all the liability with elevators, I'm surprised it wasn't locked. They really dropped the ball there. We have an elevator in our house that was put there during build by the former owner whose wife had mobility issues and we've had it serviced only once and the Tech told us that they would no longer be able to make service calls of any kind until it was retrofitted with a barrier that allowed no more than X inches between the door and elevator opening because kids can squeeze into the space. Sure enough, about a month later, we got a certified letter from them stating the same. And this is just for a residential elevator, nothing as potentially dangerous as what happened in this story.

The Tech also told me he advises people to always carry their cell phones with them whenever they use the elevator. Good advice, which I admit I don't follow 100% of the time, but this story will hopefully jog my memory.

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