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Old 09-12-2017, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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So you can’t make a large check deposit to the bank without 15 police officers showing up. Seems this kind of thing shouldn’t have to happen in America.

Iraqi doctoral student arrested depositing $151G check in Kansas - NY Daily News


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Old 09-12-2017, 10:34 PM
 
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They arrested his wife and kids too? Christ! This is so bad, totally unacceptable. There are ways of verifying the validity of a transaction, including holding the check for a number of days without having to embarrass this law abiding tax payer and his family.

I mean it couldn't have been a personal check for goodness sakes... Horrible. SMH
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Carmichael, CA
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Obviously, I don't know what was said at the time.

But--I had a similar situation. When I had barely approached the teller I immediately announced that the check was from the sale of my mom's house and was from the realty company, and was it okay? The teller could have seen that at first glance anyway, but I made sure there were no questions. Plus I was already a customer and it was a local check.

If he sold the house in Michigan and then moved to Kansas, why didn't he deposit the check locally in Michigan where he was known and then do a bank transfer to the new bank?

I'm not saying the bank did the right thing by calling the police (a lengthy hold maybe) but handing over a huge check from out of state? No way would that not be questioned.
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Old 09-13-2017, 04:56 AM
 
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They arrested his wife and kids too? Christ!
they were "colored" and not christian, and this happened in kansas...

the money wasn't what the bankers were concerned about
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If he sold the house in Michigan and then moved to Kansas, why didn't he deposit the check locally in Michigan where he was known and then do a bank transfer to the new bank?
why should he have a bank account up there? he came from KS, maybe he kept that bank all this time and not opened a new one. or he had a realtor/agent do the selling and took the check by mail since he was in KS

at least he wasn't black and nigerian, cops may have shot first instead over there
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Old 09-13-2017, 06:35 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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As a conservative, yep the bank and cops overstepped their bounds.
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Old 09-13-2017, 06:42 AM
 
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Obviously, I don't know what was said at the time.

But--I had a similar situation. When I had barely approached the teller I immediately announced that the check was from the sale of my mom's house and was from the realty company, and was it okay? The teller could have seen that at first glance anyway, but I made sure there were no questions. Plus I was already a customer and it was a local check.

If he sold the house in Michigan and then moved to Kansas, why didn't he deposit the check locally in Michigan where he was known and then do a bank transfer to the new bank?

I'm not saying the bank did the right thing by calling the police (a lengthy hold maybe) but handing over a huge check from out of state? No way would that not be questioned.
They might not have sold their house while they were in Michigan. Or there was a snag of some sort. I doubt he walked around with that check in his pocket. But real estate transactions aren't always face to face, hand someone the check and say good bye.

There is no reason to question why he did what he did anyways. What the bank and cops did was racial profiling and overstepping massively.
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Old 09-13-2017, 07:13 AM
 
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This story seems to stretch the details.

The check appeared fake. And they were handcuffed while the investigation was progressing.

My husband deposited a very large check into a bank account we'd held for 25 years. He was escorted - politely - to a room with a bank exec while the check was verified. It was all very respectful, sir, can you please step this way would you like coffee of water while we authenticate this check? Maybe he'd have been handcuffed if it appeared his check was a forgery.

There's no indication this family wasn't treated the same way, and then it went sour when the check appeared fraudulent.

Much ado about nothing, IMHO. And why does he still have possession of the check?

Here's an article with more details. I don't know why the check appeared fake, but it took police detectives with "further resources" to verify its authenticity.

http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/loca...-check-in-bank

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Old 09-13-2017, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Rural Michigan
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This is what happens when "peace officers" change their name to "law enforcement".

My old hometown recently had a police chase with ~15 cops from two departments going after shoplifters who stole meat from a grocery store. When a few comments noted that this was a case of shoplifting, not murder or assault, the boot licker brigade chimed in on how the shoplifting was "meat" and not pork & beans.

I.E., "they weren't going to *eat* the meat", inferring that (they were going to return to their lair of evil and sell the meat for immense profit?).

The beatings will continue until morale improves..
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Old 09-13-2017, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Rural Michigan
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This story seems to stretch the details.

The check appeared fake. And they were handcuffed while the investigation was progressing.

My husband deposited a very large check into a bank account we'd held for 25 years. He was escorted - politely - to a room with a bank exec while the check was verified. It was all very respectful, sir, can you please step this way would you like coffee of water while we authenticate this check? Maybe he'd have been handcuffed if it appeared his check was a forgery.

There's no indication this family wasn't treated the same way, and then it went sour when the check appeared fraudulent.

Much ado about nothing, IMHO. And why does he still have possession of the check?

Here's an article with more details. I don't know why the check appeared fake, but it took police detectives with "further resources" to verify its authenticity.

Dearborn family arrested while trying to deposit check in bank - Story | WJBK
Friend, you're boot-licking. A check can literally be written on used toilet paper & still be valid. Bankers ought to know that & further, the best "looking" checks are the fake ones.

Sell a car on Craigslist for $1000 more than your asking price & you'll get *beautiful* (fake) checks, complete with water marks, gold seals & thumb-prints & even the president's picture on the face of the check.

There's one way to verify a check, deposit it & wait for it to clear. That's why we allow holds. Call the police after you've confirmed that a check is bogus, not before.

The police in this case are completely unrepentant- they held a family for hours without reasonable suspicion or probable cause. That's wrong.
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Old 09-13-2017, 07:38 AM
 
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Friend, you're boot-licking. A check can literally be written on used toilet paper & still be valid. Bankers ought to know that & further, the best "looking" checks are the fake ones.

Sell a car on Craigslist for $1000 more than your asking price & you'll get *beautiful* (fake) checks, complete with water marks, gold seals & thumb-prints & even the president's picture on the face of the check.

There's one way to verify a check, deposit it & wait for it to clear. That's why we allow holds. Call the police after you've confirmed that a check is bogus, not before.

The police in this case are completely unrepentant- they held a family for hours without reasonable suspicion or probable cause. That's wrong.
I know. I took business law too.

But that's not what happens in practice. A check written on toilet paper would not be accepted for deposit. As a challenge, I'd like to see you do it. Post back with your experience.

It appears - from social media who are more familiar with banking at that bank than I am - he didn't have an account, but was trying to open an account with that check, that couldn't be verified. (Not sure why. signature didn't match? written on a foreign bank and they wouldn't verify authenticity?)

Curious that he still has possession of the check.
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