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Old 09-15-2017, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Originally Posted by AksarbeN View Post
If this is what happens to you when you go inside a bank where it’s safe, what would happen to you if you used a remote ATM outside and tried to deposit the check?

The police are to protect and to serve. So it would appear they overstepped and over reacted in a big way.
If you bank at that bank, you had better use a remote ATM outside to deposit any large checks. Then leave the country until things die down. Because apparently the bank employees consider large check deposits to be a major crime, right up there with bank robbery. .
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Old 09-15-2017, 07:51 PM
 
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Arrested for depositing a check at the bank? We should not tolerate this because once a precedent is set the cops can arrest anyone just for depositing checks at their banks. Who is next? Blacks, Hispanics, Whites, Asians?

As for the police or the bank admitting wrongdoings, that's never gonna happen because admitting wrongdoings would open themselves up for liability.
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Old 09-15-2017, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Here it is. The 911 call is out. The racist bank employee lied to the 911 operator and told them multiple times that the man was trying to cash the check, not deposit it. Then when asked what the man's name was, she responded that she thinks he’s Pakistani.

911 call sheds light on Iraqi-American handcuffed at Wichita bank
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Old 09-15-2017, 09:46 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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The bank employee lied to 911 repeatedly. But it's odd that the routing number on the check he was depositing was invalid. I'd like to hear why that was the case. And what does "he's being overly friendly" mean? Jeez, you can't even be polite and cooperative, without raising suspicion?

Thanks for the follow-up link.
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:45 AM
 
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The bank employee lied to 911 repeatedly. But it's odd that the routing number on the check he was depositing was invalid. I'd like to hear why that was the case. And what does "he's being overly friendly" mean? Jeez, you can't even be polite and cooperative, without raising suspicion?

Thanks for the follow-up link.
The fact that the check was subsequently validated suggests that the bank's procedures were flawed.

However, in my experience, many bank staff and especially in small towns, small banks or smaller branches simply lack the training, the experience and the knowledge to deal with even slightly complex issues.

Yesterday I was at my own bank sending an international wire and we had to get the manager involved to show the young lady assisting me how to find the Swift code for the receiving bank. This after she was insisting that it was impossible and that I had to provide it. In fairness, she was very nice about it and, after all was done, saw it as a learning experience but it demonstrates the point I was making above.

Banks rely on process and automated systems to compensate for the lack of quality, lack of experience and lack of training of their staff. If that process or that system is flawed then you can have problems. In the Wichita situation, it has led to an embarrassing and possibly expensive incident.
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Old 09-16-2017, 07:07 PM
 
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Here it is. The 911 call is out. The racist bank employee lied to the 911 operator and told them multiple times that the man was trying to cash the check, not deposit it. Then when asked what the man's name was, she responded that she thinks he’s Pakistani.

911 call sheds light on Iraqi-American handcuffed at Wichita bank
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The bank employee lied to 911 repeatedly. But it's odd that the routing number on the check he was depositing was invalid. I'd like to hear why that was the case. And what does "he's being overly friendly" mean? Jeez, you can't even be polite and cooperative, without raising suspicion?

Thanks for the follow-up link.
The Pakistani comment most likely points towards the real issue but I'm not sure exactly what the lie was? It terms of cashing the check the teller said the customer wanted funds in two days and the customer said it wasn't an issue. I think seeing the check would still be interesting given this commentary

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She says the location of the bank doesn’t match what appears on the check, there’s no phone number listed on it, the watermark is missing and the customer’s name appears to have been altered.
Again I'd bet the commentary of customer's origin plays the largest in the reaction but seeing the check still has my interest
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Old 09-16-2017, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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This story seems to stretch the details.

The check appeared fake. And they were handcuffed while the investigation was progressing.

My husband deposited a very large check into a bank account we'd held for 25 years. He was escorted - politely - to a room with a bank exec while the check was verified. It was all very respectful, sir, can you please step this way would you like coffee of water while we authenticate this check? Maybe he'd have been handcuffed if it appeared his check was a forgery.

There's no indication this family wasn't treated the same way, and then it went sour when the check appeared fraudulent.

Much ado about nothing, IMHO. And why does he still have possession of the check?

Here's an article with more details. I don't know why the check appeared fake, but it took police detectives with "further resources" to verify its authenticity.

Dearborn family arrested while trying to deposit check in bank - Story | WJBK

That is their cover story. Nearly every bank in America has authentication machines on site to verify checks. Even some US Post Offices have this equipment to verify US Postal Money Orders.

Hopefully, lawsuits will commence soon. That is the only way to punish these fools.

I would also bet a dozen donuts that a hot blonde MILF never would have been questioned or detained over a check.
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Old 09-16-2017, 07:39 PM
 
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That is their cover story. Nearly every bank in America has authentication machines on site to verify checks. Even some US Post Offices have this equipment to verify US Postal Money Orders.

Hopefully, lawsuits will commence soon. That is the only way to punish these fools.

I would also bet a dozen donuts that a hot blonde MILF never would have been questioned or detained over a check.
No machine exist to tell you if a check is fraudulent or not, at best it could tell you if funds were available but that's not a run every check gets. It's an entire falsehood to think banks have a machine to check to see if a check is good
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Old 09-16-2017, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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No machine exist to tell you if a check is fraudulent or not, at best it could tell you if funds were available but that's not a run every check gets. It's an entire falsehood to think banks have a machine to check to see if a check is good
Checks have security features that appear under different types of lights and/or heat. Some checks also have watermarks that can be seen under a black light. Next time you're in a bank ask them. US Post Offices also have these machines. If the check its not authentic chances are is fake. So I don't know what you're talking about.

Checks also have numbers that identify the Zone / state they are from. Usually looks something like
21-112
______
101

Although, I wouldn't expect any person who has worked at a bank during the last 20 years to know that.

For example, if the check is from Michigan and Michigan's number is 33 but the check has 59 somethings up.
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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Yeah we know who are the problem, but should they be punished and if so how? Being a stupid manager or employee seems to be the norm these days in this country. Seldom do they really pay the price for what they had caused to customers or others.
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