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Old 01-04-2018, 08:20 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Could be his neighbors had an issue with it.


"Elgin has lawful shelters that provide a safe space for people to go throughout the year," Center said in a statement. "In times of extreme temperature, temporary locations open within the community that all conform to regulations and codes."
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Old 01-04-2018, 08:32 AM
 
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Or they could freeze to death. That is a safety issue, too.
I get that.

He has been told at least twice now that the conditions he is providing don't meet whatever code, regulations, etc., that are in place. He has the option to bring the space up to code or he could offer the interior living space of his house. He's not doing that. This has happened two years in a row. IF he wants to help people and do it without hassle, he needs to comply with the law. What he wants to do is not out of his reach.
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Old 01-04-2018, 09:19 AM
 
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Or they could freeze to death. That is a safety issue, too.
But they are not freezing to death as there are shelters for those who need them. A lot of homeless people in a basement without an easy way to leave is not good either.
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Old 01-04-2018, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Shelters close when when they're full. No room at the Inn.
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Old 01-04-2018, 09:52 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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I get that.

He has been told at least twice now that the conditions he is providing don't meet whatever code, regulations, etc., that are in place. He has the option to bring the space up to code or he could offer the interior living space of his house. He's not doing that. This has happened two years in a row. IF he wants to help people and do it without hassle, he needs to comply with the law. What he wants to do is not out of his reach.
Yep, bringing the basement to code might be impossible because of the ceiling height, but maybe with help he could bring the garage to code. It seems as though he doesn't have much money himself as he's already been cited for other problems with the house.
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:53 AM
 
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This is something that could quickly get out of hand and cause a terrible mess in this man's yard/home and negatively affect the quality of life, property values, safety, etc., for his neighbors. I mean, c'mon, this is Illinois...it's going to be cold a lot of nights during the winter.

He needs to find a better way to help the homeless. The city is correct in what they have done. That's not heartless, it's just reality.
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Old 01-04-2018, 12:43 PM
 
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Im sorry, but this is a case where the guy should continue to disobey. He can do whatever he wants in his own home, when people start tolerating even a city Govt to tell you what you can and cannot do with your own home, thats a BIG problem imo.

Even if the city had to take action against this guy, think about how that would make them look to the rest of the country!

This kind of reminds me about a case I read about a few years ago. A suburban couple was opening up their home to a church group that didn't have their own building yet. They were told to stop. They eventually sued, and they won. One has the right to peaceful assembly in their own home.


I think this guy should get a constitutional lawyer.
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:18 PM
 
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"Schiller said city officials and police officers came to his home with a warrant Tuesday and went into his basement."

Why do we continue to make excuses for this type of Nazi rule and governing power?

Somewhere between protecting our rights and making excuses for government bondage, we've lost our homes and property to the American Nazis.

"Let 'em freeze" should be their new motto.
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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"Schiller said city officials and police officers came to his home with a warrant Tuesday and went into his basement."

Why do we continue to make excuses for this type of Nazi rule and governing power?

Somewhere between protecting our rights and making excuses for government bondage, we've lost our homes and property to the American Nazis.

"Let 'em freeze" should be their new motto.
People who are more concerned with codes than humans have lost their humanity.

I liken it to the person who won't cross the street because the light is red even though someone is coming after them with a machete. Breaking the law via jaywalking vs saving their own life? They'd rather DIE than disobey authority.

Or they would rather wait for the police to rescue them rather than take matters into their own hands. And I have had actual conversations with people about this. Me: You'd be dead. Them: I don't care. I'd still wait. Me: You would be DEAD.

It's really, really sad. Once people are in that mindset it is very, very difficult to get them out of it.
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Location: Ohio
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Im sorry, but this is a case where the guy should continue to disobey. He can do whatever he wants in his own home, when people start tolerating even a city Govt to tell you what you can and cannot do with your own home, thats a BIG problem imo.
No. This is why cities have zoning laws. Zoning laws ensure that your neighbor next door can't put gas pumps in front of his home and your neighbor across the street can't run her home as a lodging establishment. Zoning laws formalize that there's a place for everything and define how a residential neighborhood is different from a commercial area.
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