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Old 01-04-2018, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Playing devil's advocate, how would you feel living next to someone having many strange homeless people living in the house next door?
I'm smart enough to buy a house with LAND, so I don't have any immediate neighbors!

Seriously though, I see your point. It's a sh*tty scenario. That's why I seriously support the idea that the world is overpopulated, and that a lot of land is a "natural right". Not that land should be given away to everyone, but that it should be generally recognized in the minds of the public that "enough" land for everyone is necessary for communal peace and harmony. Then there are those who are perfectly comfortable with living in a confined community, so long as it's the RIGHT PEOPLE. This, of course, is an issue in itself. But the idea that everyone can and should live in a confined space is ludicrous. A bit off topic, but semi-relevant.
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Old 01-04-2018, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Playing devil's advocate, how would you feel living next to someone having many strange homeless people living in the house next door?
I'd move, but I did that years ago. That's why I live in the country with my next door neighbor a half mile away. They don't have slumber parties, but there aren't any homeless in my county.

He should be lord of his land just as I am of mine. "Hypocrisy is the homage that vice renders to virtue." I believe that Vauvergne said that. Eighteenth century Frenchmen were wizards with aphorisms.
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Old 01-04-2018, 06:45 PM
 
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It's also amazing how those houses with 20 people living in them ... they are perfectly A-OK. Nobody says a peep, nobody comes to investigate, landlords can't get any help from the "authorities" ...

But a guy wants to do the right thing and save some homeless people who face the very real possibility of freezing TO DEATH a few nights a year?

Shut him down. Shut him down NOW.

Sick society. Hypocritical society. Immoral society.
Sadly this is correct.

I've had and attended many basement slumber parties during my youth. My parents entertained their friends in our finished basement too. Not once did the communists come busting in, flashing their warrants, concerned with everyone's safety.
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Old 01-04-2018, 07:03 PM
 
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Sadly this is correct.

I've had and attended many basement slumber parties during my youth. My parents entertained their friends in our finished basement too. Not once did the communists come busting in, flashing their warrants, concerned with everyone's safety.
The only time they get involved is when we solve the problems ourselves. Can't have that. Makes government UNNECESSARY.
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Old 01-04-2018, 07:59 PM
 
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I think they just want homeless people to freeze to death.
Thought the same thing. Guess they are better off out on the streets.
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Old 01-04-2018, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Im sorry, but this is a case where the guy should continue to disobey. He can do whatever he wants in his own home, when people start tolerating even a city Govt to tell you what you can and cannot do with your own home, thats a BIG problem imo.

Even if the city had to take action against this guy, think about how that would make them look to the rest of the country!

The BIG problem is that, in violation of code, he's allowing people to sleep in his basement.

Most cities/towns have codes which prohibit that. Here, they're strict about windows which allow both ingress and egress, in the absence of a basement door.

And don't worry. If the city took action against him, it would simply make it look as if HE had to adhere to the same local codes as everyone else.
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Old 01-04-2018, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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The BIG problem is that, in violation of code, he's allowing people to sleep in his basement.

Most cities/towns have codes which prohibit that. Here, they're strict about windows which allow both ingress and egress, in the absence of a basement door.

And don't worry. If the city took action against him, it would simply make it look as if HE had to adhere to the same local codes as everyone else.
What city, county, or state has a law against overnight guests?
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:34 PM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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What city, county, or state has a law against overnight guests?
Places have laws against bedrooms being in a room without proper windows/doors in case of fire. Where I live I think windows with window wells are considered acceptable, but I think in other places they aren't. https://windowwellexperts.com/irc-codes/us/tennessee/
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:43 PM
 
Location: 415->916->602
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People need to understand that the law is not always RIGHT.

This man is exactly the type of person we need today. Helping others when needed, no strings attached.

Government does not like it when people take care of their own problems.

They want everyone to be helpless and look to the nanny state.


99 percent of what you wrote I agree with. But as I get older, I find that the law is less often right. Sometimes right is giving too much credit to the law.
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:58 PM
 
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Multiple factors prevented the fire's discovery, impeded the escape process, and led to the eventual loss of life. There were no fire sprinklers in the building, and firefighters on scene heard no smoke detectors.
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