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If he was doing nothing wrong, I dont see why people suggest he comply with law enforcement. I believe there are instances where one should not obey or comply. Its absurd to suggest giving in and letting them arrest you and then just sort it out in court later...why not resolve the matter on the spot?
LOL seriously?
And how does not complying resolve the matter?
I guess you don't watch TV. Criminal Minds, Law and Order, CSI.
You can be asked to step out of a car all the time for many reasons and it turns out to be for a thing that DOES get resolved when it's only part of an investigation you had nothing to do with.
When the DC snipers were killing people, my husband's 12 year old son was sitting in a Home Depot parking lot with headphones on listening to his CD player when his father ran in for something.
The police cars circled his vehicle, guns drawn and ordered him out. Lots of screaming etc.
But I bet if YOUR family had been a victim and the guy in the HD car lot WAS the sniper, you'd feel differently. Instead of some unexplained hostility towards law enforcement.
I do. I believe in the right to protest laws that are unjust? Do you? Slavery? Women not allowed to vote? The whole point of the US is to question (and peacefully) protest laws that people do not agree with. I guess you are a communist.
That's clever. Conflating protesting laws with breaking laws.
I REALLY REALLY object to the Income Tax laws. Guess I'll just stop paying and filing.
Just do what they tell you and they won't hurt you. I don't understand why people cannot comprehend that??? They get what they deserve
No, it doesn't work that way. Noncompliance becomes an additional issue but the penalty isn't death. In this case, it was just a taser. In others, people have ended up dead.
Do you believe the police missed an opportunity to exact justice in the Oregon standoff a few years ago?
I do. I believe in the right to protest laws that are unjust? Do you? Slavery? Women not allowed to vote? The whole point of the US is to question (and peacefully) protest laws that people do not agree with. I guess you are a communist.
That's kinda a poor example since your two examples passed from our laws many years ago.
Oh, and communists who protest get sent to the Gulag, about 20 million never came back.
The way to protest marijuana laws is to have a parade and chant, not blow smoke in a LEO's face.
The American way to deal with laws you don't like is to elect representatives who will reject those laws.
You do as you are asked by a police officer. Why fight them? What's the point? Do you think they'll just agree and walk away? Do you think you can outrun them? Not complying will always end worse than it could have been.
If he was doing nothing wrong, I dont see why people suggest he comply with law enforcement. I believe there are instances where one should not obey or comply. Its absurd to suggest giving in and letting them arrest you and then just sort it out in court later...why not resolve the matter on the spot?
Civil disobedience is all well and fine, but if you want to practice civil disobedience you have to be ready to accept the consequences. If what you are disobeying is police orders it is possible that the consequences might turn out to be painful.
You have to decide how important it is to make your political point. Courts all over the country have ruled time and again that the police can order you out of your car. If you felt the need to protest that court ruling, feel free to do so, but be prepared to accept your lumps as part of the deal. You might very well be continuing your protest from a jail cell with lumps on your head and a couple of black eyes. Because that is the usual consequence of resisting arrest.
And you would not get much political traction for your black eyes because the courts have consistently ruled against your position that the police can't legally question you.
Really, really stupid move for him to bend and reach for something out of sight. Guess it didn't occur to him they might have thought he was going for a weapon?
Because you will possibly end up in the back of a police car. I realize fighting back, defying requests, etc are a badge of courage to some people but it usually doesn't work out well.
Better to end up in the back of a Police car, then in a body bag.
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