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Old 02-12-2018, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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My first home in California was a room on a sailboat. The owners had sold almost everything to buy it and they lived in the stern berth (I had the bow). She was an executive at an advertising agency and he drove giant boats for rich people. One day they announced the boat was going round the world. I could quit my job and go with them, or move out.

Sadly, I chose the latter.

Their boat was $80,000 (used) and that was in 1988. You are not going to get much of a boat for $10,000 even used. That boat probably had no business being in the ocean other than as a day sailer. It is hard to tell much from the pictures,but it does not appear to be a cruising boat.

Dogs do fine on boats. Most of the liveaboard boats around us had dogs who were very happy dogs. They get a lot more human attention than most house dogs. Big dogs often do better than small ones because big dogs are less active and more of them like to swim. Th incredible stupidity of having no insurance makes it hard to pity this couple, however a $5000 boat may not be worth insuring. For me at $5,000, a car is right at the edge of worth insuring.
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Old 02-12-2018, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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Dang. A quick scan of their GoFundMe donors shows at least three people gave a grand apiece to these dopes.

If my wife gave $1,000 to these nitwits, she and I would have a discussion.
I have often suspected that some people "seed" their fundraiser with donations from themselves, channeled through an anonymous third party.

Maybe these people have more money than they said. It's all hearsay.
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Old 02-12-2018, 01:09 PM
 
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I have often suspected that some people "seed" their fundraiser with donations from themselves, channeled through an anonymous third party.

Maybe these people have more money than they said. It's all hearsay.
I think that happens a bunch on Kickstarter and probably Go Fund Me.

With Kickstarter, say your goal is like $100,000, and you might be $10,000 or $5,000 short with a hour to go, and you actually have that "gap money", do you try and donate through a family member/friend, giving them the money, so you hit your goal and net $90,000 or $95,000, or do you let the clock strike zero and you end up with $0 and your project not funded. What do you do?
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Old 02-12-2018, 01:23 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Good advice. OTOH, our marina just had a visit from a Swan 60 (droooool...) skippered by an 80+ year old guy who was doing his second circumnavigation...
I just checked out photos of Swan 60's. They look like racers. Beautiful boats! You have good taste.
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Old 02-12-2018, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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I have often suspected that some people "seed" their fundraiser with donations from themselves, channeled through an anonymous third party.

Maybe these people have more money than they said. It's all hearsay.
I believe that. In Westerville, OH two cops were killed answering a domestic dispute call. A legitimate GoFundMe site was set up for funeral and other expenses for the families. Immediately two fake sites were set up in their name trying to collect money. They were discovered but not before the crooks collected from them.

The local TV news channels all over the state picked up the story and warned viewers to be careful when making contributions. They posted on their websites how to spot which GoFundMe sites for this cause were legit and which weren't.

You really have to be careful with these things.
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Old 02-12-2018, 02:13 PM
 
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Bingo! It’s already up.

“We want to show people there is another way to live other than paying rent and working a 9 - 5.†😂
LMAO, leave it to a couple of millennial hipsters to act like begging people for money is some new and amazing way to get through life. I hope nobody is stupid enough to give these losers any of the money that they work hard to earn.
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Old 02-12-2018, 02:20 PM
 
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Here's what I don't understand.. Supposedly they have just a few bucks to their name after the boat sank..

How were they going to resupply?

How were they going to buy fuel? I know it was a sailboat, but you would think there'd at least be a small engine for electronics/refrigeration/etc.

Dock fees?

I don't know what else might be in play here.. Someone more familiar with boating can probably add more.
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Old 02-12-2018, 02:26 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Here's what I don't understand.. Supposedly they have just a few bucks to their name after the boat sank..

How were they going to resupply?

How were they going to buy fuel? I know it was a sailboat, but you would think there'd at least be a small engine for electronics/refrigeration/etc.

Dock fees?

I don't know what else might be in play here.. Someone more familiar with boating can probably add more.
These are great points. Aside from having to buy food on a regular basis throughout their journey, they'd have to stay fueled. Sailboats do motor in and out of harbor or while docking, etc. And on an old boat like that, repairs would be necessary, sooner or later, whether minor or major. An emergency fund or well-funded credit card is a must. And yes, dock fees. Really, it looks like they were never serious about living their dream in the first place. Not even serious about a relatively brief jaunt to the Caribbean.

In fact, the more I think about it, it starts to remind me of those two women who wanted to sail from Hawaii to Tahiti, or wherever it was, and had to be rescued.
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Old 02-12-2018, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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There is a book by Tristan Jones called The Incredible Voyage which reminds me of this story. The guy who wrote the book sailed all over the place in a small sailboat with minimal amounts of money. His source of income while on the boat was writing articles for sailing magazines. However this was in the pre-internet days. So my guess is that these two kids planned on youtubing, or collecting money via gofundme, or something like that, in order to survive.
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Old 02-12-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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LMAO, leave it to a couple of millennial hipsters to act like begging people for money is some new and amazing way to get through life. I hope nobody is stupid enough to give these losers any of the money that they work hard to earn.
Here's your answer....yes...bleeding heart idiots and those apparently looking to make themselves feel better about their own feelings are contributing to these morons Go Fund Me account......currently they have $13000 +

https://www.gofundme.com/new-sailing-life
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