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Old 03-03-2018, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Frisco, TX
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Yes...if they are truly that badly off, I doubt paying to have them spayed was a priority.
That’s fair. At some point they had a home and even if they started with a cat or two as a pat they should have spayed or neutered them and/or they shouldn’t have taken in strays. What’s done is done, and now the world is seeing what happens when you let yourself go.
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Old 03-03-2018, 04:04 PM
 
Location: OHIO
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I always see stories like this and think "you know, even if my life was this bad I would still try really hard to at least keep things as clean/sanitary as possible".

But at the same time I am sure there is major depression involved. There comes a point where people become so overcome with everything that they just give up. Not dealing with it becomes easier than dealing with it because they don't know what to do. Seems like some hoarding issues, too.

Breaks my heart people live like this.
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Old 03-03-2018, 04:22 PM
 
Location: southern kansas
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I always see stories like this and think "you know, even if my life was this bad I would still try really hard to at least keep things as clean/sanitary as possible".

But at the same time I am sure there is major depression involved. There comes a point where people become so overcome with everything that they just give up. Not dealing with it becomes easier than dealing with it because they don't know what to do. Seems like some hoarding issues, too.

Breaks my heart people live like this.
The word overwhelmed comes to mind. A person's mental or physical ability to handle daily life will determine what its takes for a person to reach the point of 'giving up'. Unfortunately, some people just don't have the 'tools' they need... and I'm not talking about community help/support. What's inside a person's character will determine whether efforts to help him will do any good... or not. That's why social services (& tax dollars) don't, and won't help everyone.
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Old 03-03-2018, 06:23 PM
 
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I couldn't have said it better myself. I'd like to add how much we spend on wars and their machines too.
Yup we've lost over a hundred billion dollars in useless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, money which simply vanished and the US government has no idea what happened to it.

It's beyond obscene when that money could have helped people like these.
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Old 03-03-2018, 07:43 PM
 
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I always see stories like this and think "you know, even if my life was this bad I would still try really hard to at least keep things as clean/sanitary as possible".

But at the same time I am sure there is major depression involved. There comes a point where people become so overcome with everything that they just give up. Not dealing with it becomes easier than dealing with it because they don't know what to do. Seems like some hoarding issues, too.

Breaks my heart people live like this.
Agree with all of this. We don't know about these specific people, but in general, yeah. I wouldn't know how to dig a whatever for waste. I have absolutely no idea (nor do I want to have to find out) what in the h to do in that sit.

I've seen a lot of hoarder shows where the people themselves were neat as a pin, and there was cleanliness, and others where a lot more than hoarding was going on, with all the filth, and all I could think was 'it got too overwhelming, they gave up on the impossibility of the tasks'.

Like the one with the plugged up toilet and an overflowing bucket used for waste. I thought, she must have not been able to afford a plumber, or was to embarrassed to have one come. She thought she'd be able to clean that bucket, but then couldn't figure out how.
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Old 03-04-2018, 12:26 AM
 
Location: 415->916->602
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It's always California. What's wrong with my state?
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Old 03-04-2018, 04:44 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I always see stories like this and think "you know, even if my life was this bad I would still try really hard to at least keep things as clean/sanitary as possible".

But at the same time I am sure there is major depression involved. There comes a point where people become so overcome with everything that they just give up. Not dealing with it becomes easier than dealing with it because they don't know what to do. Seems like some hoarding issues, too.

Breaks my heart people live like this.
They are responsible for their own lifestyle. Since they wouldn't do the bare minimum, like decluttering the area - it's tough for me to be all that concerned. The kids were not being abused, by all accounts the parents loved the kids. There's only so much that anyone else can do for them if they won't help themselves.
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Old 03-04-2018, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Townsville
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Yup we've lost over a hundred billion dollars in useless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, money which simply vanished and the US government has no idea what happened to it.

It's beyond obscene when that money could have helped people like these.
Why is it that so many people actually believe that 'money' is all that's required to resolve the issues - social, medical, etc. - that affect human beings? Moreover, the facts are that if the over a hundred billion dollars spent on useless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had not been spent on these useless wars it would STILL not have been spent on the poor.
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Old 03-04-2018, 06:12 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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I'm a little confused by this story. They were arrested because they are poor or because they are poor and didn't try to get government help?
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Old 03-04-2018, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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I think there is going to be more to this story. One article I read stated that the father lived in the trailer, mother and children lived in the "box". A neighbor stated that people move out there (no water, no electricity) to get off of the grid. Being poor isn't a crime. This doesn't look like a simple case of poverty to me.
I read that they actually owned the property, so not homeless in the sense we tend to think of it.
They apparently couldn’t afford to build a permanent structure.

“They lived with a friend in Yucca Valley for a year before Panico bought the property where he currently lives on Sunfair Road in Joshua Tree and purchased the trailer to live in.

Panico’s plan, said Reynolds, was to build a geodesic dome with solar shelves to light the house. But somewhere, the plan took a wrong turn.”

https://www.sbsun.com/2018/03/02/jos...n-court-today/
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