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Old 03-12-2018, 04:04 AM
 
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Everyones freaking out like the girl is 10 yrs old or something, she is 16! Its not like she is going to be fooled into a stranger picking her up.

Id say she was probably in a relationship with this guy and they decided on a whim to leave the state, it was probably planned out, but if she is 16, Im not sure what the guy can be charged with, (16 is the age of consent in many states), maybe endangering the welfare of a minor for basically running away with her,and maybe charges for leaving the state with a minor, but its not going to kidnapping or anything serious like that.
She is not prepubescent so it is not pedophilia. In Pennsylvania it is not statutory rape as she is age 16, but she can only lawfully have sex with someone else who is age 16 or 17. But as he is well over age 18, he is guilty of Pennsylvania's corruption of minors statute even if she willingly had sex with him.

But that charge is still serious, not as serious as kidnapping, but still serious.
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Old 03-12-2018, 08:08 AM
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She is not prepubescent so it is not pedophilia. In Pennsylvania it is not statutory rape as she is age 16, but she can only lawfully have sex with someone else who is age 16 or 17. But as he is well over age 18, he is guilty of Pennsylvania's corruption of minors statute even if she willingly had sex with him.

But that charge is still serious, not as serious as kidnapping, but still serious.
Pennsylvania law in regards to this is the most confusing of any of the states, IMHO.

As you say, age of consent is 16. But if the other partner is over 18, he(she) still won't be charged with statutory rape except in cases where there is a power differential. I'm guessing in cases where it's a teacher, a father, a juvenile justice warden, etc.

But he can be charged with corruption of a minor (as you state) and apparently will be charged with interference with custody as previous articles have stated. Corruption of a minor is a charge often used when adults buy alcohol for minors, or entice them into committing other crimes. It's is a first degree misdemeanor. UNLESS the crime is sexual in nature apparently which is very very vague - does this fall into that category?

It seems that Pennsylvania is really wanting what other states have - a romeo and juliet law, but they've gone about it in a confusing way.

Basically, the law is written that a 16 year old can legally consent to sex with whomever they want, but if that choice of partner happens to be an adult we'll find something to charge them with.
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Old 03-12-2018, 10:13 AM
 
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Texas truancy law explained:



New Truancy Law Set to Put Pressure on Schools, Parents _ The Texas Tribune

I fail to see how any of that would apply in a case of a parent checking a student out of school. If a parent checks a student out, then that is an excused absence.
It's not necessarily an excused absence if a parent checks a student out from school. The child still has to bring a note from the doctor, dentist, etc., when they come back to school If you visit a college for a campus tour, the school requires a note from the college and then they will excuse the absence. You can have a number of absences without an excuse note, but at some point the number of absences comes into review.
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Old 03-12-2018, 01:20 PM
 
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It's not necessarily an excused absence if a parent checks a student out from school. The child still has to bring a note from the doctor, dentist, etc., when they come back to school If you visit a college for a campus tour, the school requires a note from the college and then they will excuse the absence. You can have a number of absences without an excuse note, but at some point the number of absences comes into review.
Not all schools require notes. Most schools I have dealt with did not.
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Old 03-12-2018, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA, USA
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Pennsylvania law in regards to this is the most confusing of any of the states, IMHO.

As you say, age of consent is 16. But if the other partner is over 18, he(she) still won't be charged with statutory rape except in cases where there is a power differential. I'm guessing in cases where it's a teacher, a father, a juvenile justice warden, etc.

But he can be charged with corruption of a minor (as you state) and apparently will be charged with interference with custody as previous articles have stated. Corruption of a minor is a charge often used when adults buy alcohol for minors, or entice them into committing other crimes. It's is a first degree misdemeanor. UNLESS the crime is sexual in nature apparently which is very very vague - does this fall into that category?

It seems that Pennsylvania is really wanting what other states have - a romeo and juliet law, but they've gone about it in a confusing way.

Basically, the law is written that a 16 year old can legally consent to sex with whomever they want, but if that choice of partner happens to be an adult we'll find something to charge them with.
There is a power differential - he is her friend's father. Both of them are guilty of at least one thing - very poor judgement. The friend's father should at least have exhibited more sense. If he seduced her, then it is a borderline sex offense.
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Old 03-12-2018, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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There is a power differential - he is her friend's father. Both of them are guilty of at least one thing - very poor judgement. The friend's father should at least have exhibited more sense. If he seduced her, then it is a borderline sex offense.
He's married, so he's scum no matter what.
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Old 03-12-2018, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Sad and scary for the parents but she is 16 and made a choice, a poor and stupid one. I just hope she's ok and will return home after her fairy tale chance of an exciting life with an older man.
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Old 03-12-2018, 03:54 PM
 
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No, it is not more accurate. The headline is just sensational. It insinuates that the school was somehow responsible. All indications are that the school did nothing wrong, and had already banned the guy from the campus, before this happened.

And yet was still able to sign the girl out, right?
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Old 03-12-2018, 04:05 PM
 
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Everyones freaking out like the girl is 10 yrs old or something, she is 16! Its not like she is going to be fooled into a stranger picking her up.

Id say she was probably in a relationship with this guy and they decided on a whim to leave the state, it was probably planned out, but if she is 16, Im not sure what the guy can be charged with, (16 is the age of consent in many states), maybe endangering the welfare of a minor for basically running away with her,and maybe charges for leaving the state with a minor, but its not going to kidnapping or anything serious like that.
i think this is the law in most states:
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most states:
anyone is allowed to mate with anyone as long as they are 18+.
18 - 19 year olds are allowed to mate with anyone as long as they are not more than 24 months (in some states 36 months) younger than they are.
i think in some states, the day before a 17-year-olds 18th b-day and the day after an 18-year-olds birthday is still considered rape.
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Old 03-12-2018, 05:03 PM
 
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Sad and scary for the parents but she is 16 and made a choice, a poor and stupid one. I just hope she's ok and will return home after her fairy tale chance of an exciting life with an older man.
True. It's said every action deserves an equal/opposite reaction. In this of this teen, the consequence of possible rape is not her fault. However, it is still a consequence.
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