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Old 08-09-2018, 10:12 AM
 
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It seems to me that if he had a caretaker it means someone had a responsibility to monitor and guide his behavior, and they failed that responsibility by not being in the area at all. If a caretaker left a minor child alone and something happened to that child would the caretaker be charged? Is this very different than that?
I'm not familiar with various laws, but I didn't realize that people who aren't experts aren't allowed to wonder about how the law works in these crazy kinds of cases.
A child is not their own guardian
An 18 year old is, unless they've had that delegated to another person or agency

People with these types of disabilities have different levels of care.
In my state, some require staff within arm's length at all times when in the community. Other have virtually unlimited free time. It all depends in their level of disability

 
Old 08-09-2018, 10:13 AM
 
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I’m not saying at all that she should be charged, I don’t think she should be charged with anything. I just think she should’ve been with him.
I do too. I'm just saying and then what? Bear hug? Not allowed. It's he who is at fault for his actions.
 
Old 08-09-2018, 10:19 AM
 
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I’m not saying at all that she should be charged, I don’t think she should be charged with anything. I just think she should’ve been with him.
You can't think she should or should not be charged. It depends on that individual's level of care which we have no idea what it was. He may have been free to do as he wished, or she may have been required to be right with him.

If she was not upholding the level of care, she should be charged.
 
Old 08-09-2018, 10:21 AM
 
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I do too. I'm just saying and then what? Bear hug? Not allowed. It's he who is at fault for his actions.
She should be trained to de-escalate him when he gets upset. That is the whole point of him needing an attendant, as obviously physically he doesn’t need assistance. I worked in special ed for five years. We’ve had plenty of kids with very poor frustration tolerance and there are methods and techniques that caregivers are trained to use in these situations. It’s possible that just in keeping him company and speaking to him while they were waiting in line, he would not have become as frustrated with the slow moving line.
 
Old 08-09-2018, 10:22 AM
 
Location: NJ
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In Minnesota, an 18 year old man with mental disabilities threw an 8 year old boy off a 31 foot water slide. He got tired of waiting in line and just picked the boy up and threw him off the slide. He is facing charges for third degree assault.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...205234493.html
i would beat him to death if he did that to my kid. i couldnt care less what anyone says about his disability.
 
Old 08-09-2018, 10:23 AM
 
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i would beat him to death if he did that to my kid.
Great then the kid has broken bones and no father, that’s wonderful.
 
Old 08-09-2018, 10:24 AM
 
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i would beat him to death if he did that to my kid. i couldnt care less what anyone says about his disability.
Great!

Now your kid has a variety of broken bones and a convicted parent,
Way to improve the situation
 
Old 08-09-2018, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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If the person is "mentally disabled" and was interrogated by police without a lawyer, that is going to be very problematic.
I did not see any reference to a lawyer being present while being interrogated. I also did not read any reference to the suspect being made aware of his miranda rights.


I would think in a situation like this the police would be smarter.
 
Old 08-09-2018, 10:27 AM
 
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I don't understand why this legal adult isn't being charged with attempted murder? Chances are pretty good a person of any age falling 30 ft onto concrete is going to result in death. I'm shocked at his charge and his low bond which he was easily able to post. This is an absolutely horrifying story, this monster needs to be locked up right now.
 
Old 08-09-2018, 10:27 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Great!

Now your kid has a variety of broken bones and a convicted parent,
Way to improve the situation
I tried to help detain him until the police arrived and he attacked me.
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