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Vaping increased nearly 80% among high schoolers and 50% among middle schoolers since last year, prompting the US Food and Drug Administration to propose new measures against flavored nicotine products that have propelled the rise, the agency announced Thursday.
My friend is a high school nurse and said the kids are smoking right in class, blowing the vapors in to their shirts or jackets and it's not detectable by the time a teacher looks up/over/around
Interesting video with story...like they said, flavors like Fruit Loops?
Seems parents have no clue how many of their kids are doing this because it's so easily hidden.
Vaping is pretty easily detectable. It doesn't have the odor of tobacco but leaves one heck of a cloud. That's probably half the appeal. High schoolers are always more susceptible to ostentatious displays. Unless the teacher is taking a nap that cloud isn't going anywhere.
Too late at this point. If you wanted to nip it in the bud with a minor inconvenience, the time was years ago. It's got too much traction. It never was about more regulation. There's been plenty of that. It was about enforcement. I found it mildly hard to get alcohol in high school. Apparently that's not the case with vaping. Now you're just left with the much harder task of education. Can't even ban it at this point Big Tobacco is vaping. The same lobbying power that would make a smoking ban DOA applies to vaping. Any serious regulation that impedes Big Tobacco from selling to legitimate customers, meaning not minors, will get sued. It would have to be legislative and, well, not going to happen due to lobbying.
Vaping is pretty easily detectable. It doesn't have the odor of tobacco but leaves one heck of a cloud. That's probably half the appeal. High schoolers are always more susceptible to ostentatious displays. Unless the teacher is taking a nap that cloud isn't going anywhere.
Too late at this point. If you wanted to nip it in the bud with a minor inconvenience, the time was years ago. It's got too much traction. It never was about more regulation. There's been plenty of that. It was about enforcement. I found it mildly hard to get alcohol in high school. Apparently that's not the case with vaping. Now you're just left with the much harder task of education. Can't even ban it at this point Big Tobacco is vaping. The same lobbying power that would make a smoking ban DOA applies to vaping. Any serious regulation that impedes Big Tobacco from selling to legitimate customers, meaning not minors, will get sued. It would have to be legislative and, well, not going to happen due to lobbying.
We do not ID people for Ecigs at our stores, I wasnt aware any states were doing this though.
Something I do not get, how is 'big tobacco' still BIG in modern times? IF the figures are correct and hardly anyone is smoking anymore, its seems logical to assume the tobacco companies must be hanging on by a thread, and very close to being bankrupt..
Point is, a dying industry such a this, surely ,they would not be in a position to threaten or influence lawmakers of any state.
Something I do not get, how is 'big tobacco' still BIG in modern times? IF the figures are correct and hardly anyone is smoking anymore, its seems logical to assume the tobacco companies must be hanging on by a thread, and very close to being bankrupt..
I have read an article (sorry, I don't have a link) that said their big sales are in Asia these days.
We do not ID people for Ecigs at our stores, I wasnt aware any states were doing this though.
Something I do not get, how is 'big tobacco' still BIG in modern times? IF the figures are correct and hardly anyone is smoking anymore, its seems logical to assume the tobacco companies must be hanging on by a thread, and very close to being bankrupt..
Point is, a dying industry such a this, surely ,they would not be in a position to threaten or influence lawmakers of any state.
Kind of the point.
Do you live somewhere other than in Idaho or Pennsylvania? Congratulations. Your store is breaking the law. It's just until very recently there was literally zero enforcement. I mean, your company still had some obligation to keep abreast of laws that directly pertained to it but let's be honest about that. Nobody has enough time to keep abreast of every law change especially ones that see zero enforcement efforts.
Hardly. Phillip Morris is still a ~140 billion dollar company. It's a solid blue chip with a decent dividend yield though. Plus they're in the ecig market now, which is their growth area. Imperial has blu, PM has iQOS, British American has Vype, and so on. Plus you have upstarts like Juul (PAX spinoff) which have long been part of the tobacco consortium.
Do you live somewhere other than in Idaho or Pennsylvania? Congratulations. Your store is breaking the law. It's just until very recently there was literally zero enforcement. I mean, your company still had some obligation to keep abreast of laws that directly pertained to it but let's be honest about that. Nobody has enough time to keep abreast of every law change especially ones that see zero enforcement efforts.
Hardly. Phillip Morris is still a ~140 billion dollar company. It's a solid blue chip with a decent dividend yield though. Plus they're in the ecig market now, which is their growth area. Imperial has blu, PM has iQOS, British American has Vype, and so on. Plus you have upstarts like Juul (PAX spinoff) which have long been part of the tobacco consortium.
Well, then we are being mis-led about how many people are not smoking these days!
I read and hear all the time about how hardly anyone smokes cigarettes anymore, compared to the 70s and 80s anyway, but it doesnt seem like that is accurate, cigarettes and ecigs are one of our best sellers in my district, which is about 48 stores in KY, OH and IN.
Its kind of strange how so many places are enacting smoking bans, seems like 'big tobacco' would step in and prevent them from doing this...right?
Regarding IDing for Ecigs though, Im not sure they even enforce this, as some of our stores get popped here and there for selling cigarettes to a minor, they will send in a young person and try to buy cigs, and if the cashier does not card, we get a fine to pay...Ive never seen them do this and try to buy ecigs though.
Well, then we are being mis-led about how many people are not smoking these days!
RFC. The vast growth and bulk of sales is overseas, mostly in Asia. Having lost their grip on convincing US high school kids that smokin' is cool, they turned their marketing efforts to other countries. But, of course, "now there's an app for it!" which makes smoking cool again here. And in forty-leven spectacular flavors, too.
I really don't want to know what nuclear-level rationalizations let these guys sleep at night.
Our government wants to ban certain flavors. Really? Flavors!!
That's sick. That's an indication of a government out of control from too much power.
Follow the money. Government is pissed that kids found a way to avoid paying those high tobacco taxes. Follow all the lost revenues and you'll understand why flavors are about to be banned.
Our government wants to ban certain flavors. Really? Flavors!!
That's sick. That's an indication of a government out of control from too much power.
Follow the money. Government is pissed that kids found a way to avoid paying those high tobacco taxes. Follow all the lost revenues and you'll understand why flavors are about to be banned.
Wow, it's been a real Wow day here on C-D.
Ciggies taste like crap. Only by becoming inured and getting addicted do you even pretend to get over the fact that they taste like crap.
But mix nicotine and 12 candy flavors - which have zero appeal to adults - and the lucky kids have years to go before they find out what an unfiltered Camel tastes like. Not that they'll have any choice at that point.
But yes, of course, da gummint is banning flavored smokes because they don't get a full tax cut from it. Got it.
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