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Old 11-18-2018, 06:33 AM
 
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A high school in northwestern England is attempting to level the playing field for disadvantaged students by banning expensive Canada Goose and Moncler coats.
In a letter to parents at the beginning of November, the headteacher of Woodchurch High School in Birkenhead explained that the ban was coming in after Christmas as the school was "mindful that some young people put pressure on their parents to purchase expensive items of clothing."
"These coats cause a lot of inequality between our pupils," headteacher Rebekah Phillips told CNN. "They stigmatize students and parents who are less well off and struggle financially."
The blacklisted coats sell for as much as $1,200 -- a cost many parents will struggle to afford. "There has been feedback from children, who say 'Gosh, that is our rent for the month,'" Phillips said.



https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/16/uk/po...ntl/index.html

 
Old 11-18-2018, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Couldn't believe it when I read the story. Who the heck wears coats in school? Do the less advantaged kids get upset when their parents drive them to school in a used car while other kids arrive in more expensive vehicles? Does Student A have a nicer phone than Student B? What are they going to do when they get jobs? Will mommy and daddy be checking out the clothing of their co-workers?

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“We are very concerned about the fact that our children put a lot of pressure on parents to buy them expensive coats,” she said. Pupils were attending classes in coats that cost up to £700, she said, adding “a lot of parents at our school cannot afford that”. Those pupils who did not have expensive outerwear were upset, she continued. “They feel stigmatised, they feel left out, they feel inadequate,” she said."

https://www.thecollegefix.com/school...g-of-students/
Hey parents, tell your offspring, "NO!" It's that easy or try, "Get a job and save up for one."
 
Old 11-18-2018, 08:51 AM
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Honestly, that's an outrageous price for a coat for a child.

Our school district has a policy about not sending kids to school with very valuable irreplaceable items. Sorry, if your child leaves the coat in the cafeteria, we aren't going to turn the school upside down to find it.

Our school also put the kabosh on parents hiring limos on the last day of school to pick up their little cupcakes and her cliquey friends. You can send a limo, but it can't arrive until half hour after school gets out and the buses and car riders have cleared the parking lot -so basically, you can't flaunt your clique in front of everyone else.
 
Old 11-18-2018, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It's sad when kids use clothing to try and establish social superiority.
 
Old 11-18-2018, 11:41 AM
 
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Socialism is not good for anybody; I feel sorrow that they are coming to this.
 
Old 11-18-2018, 11:48 AM
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Socialism is not good for anybody; I feel sorrow that they are coming to this.
This isn't about socialism. There will always be kids (and adults) who dress more nicely, are cleaner, come from nicer homes, bring nicer lunches, etc. than others.

This is about distraction in the school. About creating cliques that isolate peers on the basis of a ridiculously priced jacket. And yes, some kids will lose their jackets. Some kid will have mud on their jacket because some other kid ran by really fast. The school doesn't want the headache of shepherding these stupid coats.

Adults who do this kind of nonsense are rejected pretty much; children don't have the maturity to know how stupid it is, and that a jacket doesn't matter when you're choosing who you want to associate with.
 
Old 11-18-2018, 11:52 AM
 
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It's sad when kids use clothing to try and establish social superiority.
I agree, but this is how it is in school, I remember it well, you were viewed as poor unless you had this years Air Jordans!


I doubt banning these coats will solve anything, if the kids cant use the coats to display how wealthy they are, they will just start with other things like shoes or pants, etc.
 
Old 11-18-2018, 11:55 AM
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I agree, but this is how it is in school, I remember it well, you were viewed as poor unless you had this years Air Jordans!


I doubt banning these coats will solve anything, if the kids cant use the coats to display how wealthy they are, they will just start with other things like shoes or pants, etc.
That's true. And the market is happy to step up and provide things that cost outrageous amounts and don't deliver that amount of quality, just so middle school kids can lord it over each other.

Like those stupid shoes with duct tape.

Uniforms are not such a bad idea, IMHO, for middle schoolers.
 
Old 11-18-2018, 12:10 PM
 
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$1200 for a coat is stupid.

If the school mandated uniforms for its students they could actually get down to what school is all about and that is studying. School is not a fashion show.





Still though, seeing your peers wearing expensive clothing can be perceived in different ways. The kid is rather shallow to have the need to flaunt his parents money and it could inspire a kid to work harder at school so he/she can get a good paying job so they can have nice things.
 
Old 11-18-2018, 12:21 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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$1200 for a coat is stupid.
I had no idea what Moncler jacket was until my friend asked me to take her shopping for a gift (we were in NYC Moncler store or was it Bloomingdales? ). I saw her exact jacket (she was wearing it at the time) on the rack. OMG.. $2500USD. I was floored... and here I was wearing a jacket I got for Costco for $30.

I spent my younger days in a poor neighborhood and my teens in what became an affluent area and school.... I certainly could understand the idea behind uniforms in school. I drove a $100USD junker in high school and the parking lot was filled with BMWs. Certainly got a lot of flake for that. My friends from my old neighborhood thought it was the coolest car...
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