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Old 12-13-2018, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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I have never sent a text in my life, so I don't care. And I cant imagine I will ever need to.
Nearly every service provider I deal with from plumbers to electricians and landscapers to pool maintenance will only communicate via text.

That way they (and I) have a record of the communication.

You're a little bit in the Dark Ages, but if that works for you, great.
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Old 12-13-2018, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Interesting. I probably haven't made a phone call in over 5 years. Everybody I deal with uses text including my elderly parents, businesses and even 911. I can't imagine why I would ever have to or want to talk on a phone ever again
I guess you and I will just have to communicate like this. Will your device still support voice, or have the current models discontinued that? Like freenets and DOS, which were not just un-taxed, but completely free.. With faster connection speed than I get now. In 2001, still using DOS and dial-up freenet, I could snipe bidders using Window on ebay.

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Old 12-13-2018, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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How will the CPUC enforce this in these cases::

1/ Someone buys an out of state phone with a non-California area code, and brings it in state?
2/ A California area code mobile phone gets taken out of state, is it still charged?
3/ A mobile user who doesn’t use text, are they still charged?
The question is, why would anyone bother trying to dodge a tax that will be smaller than the e911 fee?
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Old 12-13-2018, 05:32 PM
 
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The question is, why would anyone bother trying to dodge a tax that will be smaller than the e911 fee?
Some if not many people text all day long, text after text after text. If you're changed per text it would add up quickly. I doubt people call 911 very often.
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Old 12-13-2018, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Some if not many people text all day long, text after text after text. If you're changed per text it would add up quickly. I doubt people call 911 very often.
The idea that there will be a per-text charge is a remnant of the repeated panic-hoax of "a ten cent charge per email" that recurred endlessly from the '90s on. Phone users might have noticed that they are not charged or taxed "per call" by any such fee, nor is the e911 charge based on any calls to 911.

Utility taxes are a (tiny) percentage of the bill or an even tinier fixed amount. Even if this proposal is implemented, its impact will be... essentially invisible.

But by all means, go ahead, panic, riot in the streets, call California names, wave the yellow flag...
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Old 12-13-2018, 05:45 PM
 
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The idea that there will be a per-text charge is a remnant of the repeated panic-hoax of "a ten cent charge per email" that recurred endlessly from the '90s on. Phone users might have noticed that they are not charged or taxed "per call" by any such fee, nor is the e911 charge based on any calls to 911.

Utility taxes are a (tiny) percentage of the bill or an even tinier fixed amount. Even if this proposal is implemented, its impact will be... essentially invisible.

But by all means, go ahead, panic, riot in the streets, call California names, wave the yellow flag...
I didn't panic. In fact, I don't give a damn. I just made a statement that if it's taxed per text it would add up quickly. Did I need permission to say that? Next time I'll check with you first.
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Old 12-13-2018, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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I didn't panic. In fact, I don't give a damn. I just made a statement that if it's taxed per text it would add up quickly. Did I need permission to say that? Next time I'll check with you first.
No, you have blanket permission to say any stupid, irrelevant things you like. Me, I wonder what will happen when any cop can pat you down for a phone and charge you $10 on the spot for having one. Wouldn't that be terrible?
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Old 12-13-2018, 05:52 PM
 
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No, you have blanket permission to say any stupid, irrelevant things you like. Me, I wonder what will happen when any cop can pat you down for a phone and charge you $10 on the spot for having one. Wouldn't that be terrible?
You must be having a very bad day
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Old 12-13-2018, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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I don't care, because:
1. I don't live in California, nor do I know anybody who lives there now since my son moved out.
2. My dumb phone is not text enabled. I do not send texts messages. EVER!


As for "service providers" that will only answer to text messages, I do not know of any around here. If there are, they will never set foot in my house. I will never request their services.
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Old 12-13-2018, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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This is what happens in a state where everything has been regulated and there is nothing else left to tax.
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