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Old 12-25-2018, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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You come up with the most ridiculous crap. I'm retired LE and our grandson-in-law just graduated from the academy. All we want to do is go home in one piece at the end of the day. Escalating a situation is grounds for termination and just causes problems down the line. You must have watched too many Dirty Harry movies. LE today isn't like that.
If all you want to do is go home in one piece at the end of the day, then the solution is very simple. Never, never, step in front of a moving car, or a car that is about to move. Yet cops do it repeatedly, usually so they can have and excuse to shoot the driver.

Again if this cop had just stayed in his car and called 911, we wouldn't be having this conversation now, the woman wouldn't be facing 50 years in prison, and taxpayers wouldn't be on the hook for $3 million for her trial and incarceration.
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Old 12-25-2018, 02:12 AM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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Is it just me or has the tide turned and women are becoming the more prolific troublemakers in society rather than men who traditionally held that role years ago?
I don’t know; I’m kind of oblivious to it but that’s what the husband is saying: That lately; it’s been women driving aggressively, too fast, getting too angry, etc ... He’s had women swerving to cut him off, or pulling out in front of him & then screaming at him out their windows. Basically road raging at him & other drivers as well.
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Old 12-25-2018, 02:29 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Actually, he had a third choice.

Yup. He could have shot her.


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Old 12-25-2018, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Troy, NY
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Off duty means not in uniform and not in a police cruiser. He gives chase, blocks in her car
and approaches her vehicle and then identifies himself as a cop.

Anybody can say they're a cop. We citizens have a right to question that. She really doesn't have a clue who that guy is
or what he's going to do to her if he gets close enough to her. Her natural instinct is to flee.
The article doesn't mention if he showed his badge while identifying himself as a cop. It was conveniently left out of
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I don't know. She may have a case for doing everything in her power to get away from him. Even the scumbags have a right to protect themselves from a perceived danger, including strange men who chase them and claim to be cops.
If he already caused her physical harm, maybe. But not with lethal force, especially if had had no weapon.
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Old 12-25-2018, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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Yes, I blame the cop. Here is why. If the cop had stayed out of the way and just called 911, she would have been apprehended exactly where she was, and charged with a simple hit and run, and we wouldn't even be having this thread. Instead he made a decision to put his life unnecessarily in danger to escalate the incident into the epic story we have now. Because of the cops actions in escalating the situation, taxpayers will now be out about $3 million for her trial, and to incarcerate her. Cops like this cost us all a lot of money, when they escalate a simply incident into a major crime. This is classic Jordan v. The City of New London.

Oh, come on. Exaggerate much?
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Old 12-25-2018, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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There will always be those who will blame the traffic cop, any traffic cop, for stopping anyone from doing whatever they want to do on the roads. (Unless it's driving in the left lane at any speed less than what they themselves want to drive, in which case it's Katy bar the door.)

I really get a kick out of the people who hate everything about the police, UNTIL THEY NEED A COP TO HELP THEM ! Then they are dialing 911 as fast as their little fingers will move.
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Old 12-25-2018, 08:37 AM
 
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A 25-year-old mom with 3 kids (8, 2, and 1) that works with the post office who went postal? The "she is a good person" argument pretty much went out the figurative window after pulling this stunt.
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Old 12-25-2018, 11:41 AM
 
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Is it just me or has the tide turned and women are becoming the more prolific troublemakers in society rather than men who traditionally held that role years ago?
I've been commenting on that for a few years myself. In all honesty, we've been taught that just because we are women, we are right. That ain't necessarily so. Try working with a group of women. I've met some that are wonderful, but some get into some sort of competition that may be just in their head. It goes downhill from there.
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Old 12-25-2018, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Yeah, we men used to be the ones who were crazy, but women are catching up more and more every day. Not sure if men and women who do these kinds of things are products of their upbringing, or if there is some sort of mental decline going on, but people are just nuts today.
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Old 12-25-2018, 12:20 PM
 
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If all you want to do is go home in one piece at the end of the day, then the solution is very simple. Never, never, step in front of a moving car, or a car that is about to move. Yet cops do it repeatedly, usually so they can have and excuse to shoot the driver.

Again if this cop had just stayed in his car and called 911, we wouldn't be having this conversation now, the woman wouldn't be facing 50 years in prison, and taxpayers wouldn't be on the hook for $3 million for her trial and incarceration.
The cop's error or not, is not a factor in this case. She in fact committed a hit a and run, she in fact tried to hit him, then proceeded to continue to drive with him on the car. Everything else is moot.

What she should have done is what most everyone does, when you hit someone, you do not flee the scene of an accident.

If her medical issues/treatment cause this or are a factor, fine, she should not be allowed to drive while these issues are present.

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The article doesn't mention if he showed his badge while identifying himself as a cop. It was conveniently left out of
the article.





If he already caused her physical harm, maybe. But not with lethal force, especially if had had no weapon.
It does not matter about the badge, you still do not attempt to hit someone, especially in light that she knew she already was fleeing from a hit and run. After the attempted hit, you still do not drive at such speeds with the person on the hood of the car.
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