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Exactly. This case is even more interesting. Because this guy now owns their water lines. If he decides to, he can shut off their water service.
Not only does he own their water lines, but he also owns their mailboxes and the wall between their garages. The homeowners are not comprehending how screwed they are. They need to step up to the plate and make a deal with this guy.
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Originally Posted by Cloudy Dayz
LOL, I may have never been a property owner, but I seem to know more about it, then some here. At least I know who owns and is responsible for the water lines under the property.
Again, he does not own anything other than the land. The water from the meter to the main belongs to the gov, and from the meter to the home belongs to the homeowners, irregardless of the property it crosses, this would be the "necessity easement". Additionally, it would be illegal for him to shut off the water in the manner you described.
Furthermore, this place is in an HOA, so he is not really going to be doing anything, not even moving a mail box which by the way, is a bit more complicated than just moving just because you feel like doing so.
You should try to to discuss about subjects you have zero clue about...
Even landlords in Florida cannot shut off water on their own property as a way to force tenants out. So it makes no difference who owns the meters and the pipes: he can't shut off the neighbors' water. Think about it: if utility lines to your home go under someone else property, do they have any right to hold them hostage? Ridiculous.
Besides the HOA, there are probably nuisance ordinances. It's likely he could be ticketed and sued if he made a pest of himself.
Even landlords in Florida cannot shut off water on their own property as a way to force tenants out. So it makes no difference who owns the meters and the pipes: he can't shut off the neighbors' water. Think about it: if utility lines to your home go under someone else property, do they have any right to hold them hostage? Ridiculous.
Besides the HOA, there are probably nuisance ordinances. It's likely he could be ticketed and sued if he made a pest of himself.
Yes, did you read the link I posted? It's the property owners property. They have the right to do with their property as they see fit. If other people's water lines run under your property, you have a right to remove those pipes. It's your land. The only exceptions are utility easements. Those are owned by utility companies, and they have a right of access. Private service lines are not owned by the utility companies. They are owned by the property owners. As several people have posted, from their own experience.
You mean the link that says, "Neighbors may not harmfully interfere with your water rights" and "Private property owners generally cannot interfere with a public water supply"?
As for moving pipes and meters to resolve access issues, there's no access issue here. The neighbors have access, and the buyer doesn't have a water tap on the property.
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Again, he does not own anything other than the land. The water from the meter to the main belongs to the gov, and from the meter to the home belongs to the homeowners, irregardless of the property it crosses, this would be the "necessity easement". Additionally, it would be illegal for him to shut off the water in the manner you described.
Furthermore, this place is in an HOA, so he is not really going to be doing anything, not even moving a mail box which by the way, is a bit more complicated than just moving just because you feel like doing so.
You should try to to discuss about subjects you have zero clue about...
Assuming your are right, which you are not. In that case he can dig down to the pipes. Then turn off the water at the meter. It's on his property. He has legal access to it. Cut the service lines at the meters, cap them off, then fill in the hole. At that point the houses no longer have water service lines. When a contractor or whoever comes to reestablish the connections, he can call the police, show them proof he owns the strip, and he doesn't want them digging up his land. At that point the police would have no choice but to tell the contractor to leave.
The guy who bought the strip is not a HOME owner and not a member of the HOA, therefore not subject to rules to the HOME owners association. They have no authority over him.
Calling me clueless, when it was you who thought that private water service lines were owned by water companies, is pretty funny.
You mean the link that says, "Neighbors may not harmfully interfere with your water rights" and "Private property owners generally cannot interfere with a public water supply"?
As for moving pipes and meters to resolve access issues, there's no access issue here. The neighbors have access, and the buyer doesn't have a water tap on the property.
From your link.
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Property rights carry a great deal of force; even though the neighbor may be precluded from actively interfering, that doesn’t mean he or she can’t passively (or passive-aggressively) cause problems by simply refusing access to his or her land. When there’s a non-emergency “need” to do so, it would be difficult to force the issue. And even emergency maintenance could be reasonably delayed while the utility seeks a court order.
BTW, if he owns property within the confines of the HOA, he plays by their rules.
Add HOAs to the list of things, you don't understand. The only thing HOA's can do is the impose a fine for members who fail to follow rules, suspend a member's right to vote, or restrict a member's access to community amenities. Since he is not a member, none of that would have any effect on him.
Add HOAs to the list of things, you don't understand. The only thing HOA's can do is the impose a fine for members who fail to follow rules, suspend a member's right to vote, or restrict a member's access to community amenities. Since he is not a member, none of that would have any effect on him.
Keep it coming, Cloudy. Your "arguments" on these threads show no depth of understanding, and it's clear you have no real life experience with any of this; you're just Googling stuff, taking the first hit, and misinterpreting it.
If you own property in an HOA, you play by their rules. Sigh. From your own link:
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When a property inside an HOA governed community is purchased, the homeowner automatically becomes a member of the homeowners' association
So yes, he's a now a member of the applicable HOA.
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