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I have no problem with women going topless on the beach. And swimming naked feels better. However...... with everyone having cell phones with cameras...... don't be surprised to have unauthorized pictures out there.
Here's what I dont get. Maybe it was discussed earlier in the thread but there was so much sniping, I didnt read the entire thread. In the US, our values have determined that the breast need to be covered. Right or wrong that is what the American society has decided. In Europe those societies have decided women can be topless (if not fully nude).
In America, the nude body needs to be discussed with our children. In Europe it is an every day ocurrence.
That said, if an American went to Europe and expected to push their values they would be run out of the country (continent) but somehow in America it is expected that everything should be accepted because "America!"
I didnt raise my daughter to accept nudity as a natural thing because in America nudity isnt as accepted as it is elsewhere. You cant condemn me or her because of that and you cant throw "well they do it in Europe" around either. We're not in Europe.
Now if the US wants to progress to a time where nudity in its purest form is ok then fine but until then we havent raised ourselves to be in that position.
Five. Five posts before the America bashing began. Nothing is stopping you from living in Europe.
The most American thing in the world is to complain (common sense pamphlets anyone?) and to riot (Boston tea party) and so on. This love it or leave it crap is blatantly ignorant of our beautiful, messy history of being complainer who work to change what they don’t like.
I got a big laugh when I saw that there was a religious convention in a downtown convention center. Outside the convention center was a half-sized replica of Michelangelo's "David". Someone from the convention had taken the liberty of tying a beach towel around David's waist so as not to offend the sensibilities of the conventioneers. Even art is not safe from prudish behavior.
That map is wrong. Women going topless is legal in Vermont. In fact women and men going bottomless is legal in Vermont. Being nude in public will not get you arrested. Being lewd will. It is rare however to encounter a nude person at other than a swimming hole. Some years back there was a group of teenagers that decided to hang out nude in a downtown area and it proved to not be a big deal for the people that lived there. The kids (boys & girls) were minding their own business and just listening to music and talking. There was some publicity however which resulted in a couple creeps from other States going there so as to walk around downtown nude, and they got promptly arrested for lewd behavior.
State law does allow individual towns to enact public nudity bans but most towns haven't and those that have do it only in specified areas that were problematic in some manner. Vermont culturally is probably more akin to European sensibilities in this regard than is most of the US.
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Five. Five posts before the America bashing began. Nothing is stopping you from living in Europe.
