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Old 07-24-2019, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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If the NYP story was "oddly written," it was no more so than multiple news sources. In addition, the NYP article didn't state that he wasn't treated for the gunshot wound.

And BTW, multiple publications and sites used the term nervous breakdown. Why? Because that's what was reported by local (Mexican) outlets. Every account I've read or heard on this, references "reports." So did the NYP article, where they also provided a link.

Since I'm fluent in Spanish, I'll translate the pertinent paragraph:

"The minor was also treated by the Red Cross in Petatlán for his injuries and because he had a nervous breakdown [emphasis mine]."

The term they used was "crisis nerviosa"--nervous breakdown. That's not even a medical term. It never was, even though it's certainly outmoded and has fallen into the garbage heap of long-gone terms.

I suspect, then, that most publications, sites, and TV news broadcasts simply went for the direct translation. I did notice one which used the term "emotional trauma"--certainly more appropriate, and medically descriptive of his mental state.

So now you know the rest of the story!
Gracias for the clarification!
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Old 07-24-2019, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Gracias for the clarification!
LOL ¡De nada!
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Old 07-24-2019, 04:03 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I spend a lot of time in Northern Baja and NO DRIVING AT NIGHT is considered one of the cardinal rules for *everyone*, Mexicans and gringos alike.
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Old 07-24-2019, 09:59 PM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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The only reason I'm looking through this case, and this family, is I really believe that except in the very rarest of situations, an American family who is truly a "tourist", visiting restaurants and staying in resorts and sunbathing at the pools, are typically very safe in Mexico.

Even the cartels have no interest in shutting off that very lucrative source of income.

That, and the family is making no effort to get the boy back, it appears.

So. Who were they, and what exactly were they doing in the wee hours that caught the eye of the cartel?
My parents took us to Mexico on vacation in the 1980s. We road-tripped it; from Colorado Springs to Mazatlan.

Right after that American professor was murdered. They wanted us to ‘see the way a lot of the rest of the world lived’ & that we did. I’m a ‘trouble magnet’; pretty epic, if I do say so myself & I had lots of bizarre moments down there but it was awesome.

Probably the scariest thing was the highways. They are NOT like highways in the US! You’d see a bunch of shrines on all the blind curves & they drive these big, old pickups; overloaded with people, cows, you name it ... & they love to play ‘chicken’ with other cars on the roads; driving head on towards you & swerving away in the nick of time, usually with a big grin on their face.
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Old 07-24-2019, 10:27 PM
 
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And what professional journalist in this day and age uses the term "nervous breakdown"?

Of course, it's the NY Post, which would be the NY Enquirer if it didn't have such a popular sports section. If you see someone on the train reading it, you laugh, and they always says apologetically, "but it has the BEST sports section."
Can't rep you enough. The post is a disgusting tag and an embarrassment to journalism.
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Old 07-24-2019, 10:46 PM
 
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If you believe some news sources local Mexican LE are likely culprits.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/utah-m...ld-son-wounded


Why anyone goes down to that heck hole of a country I don't know. Elected (if you can call them that) officials, military, law enforcement, the lot are just as crooked and criminal as the thugs, cartels and gangs. Often they are all the same.
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Old 07-24-2019, 10:55 PM
 
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Warning! Disturbing Crime Scene Pictures:

https://scallywagandvagabond.com/201...cution-deaths/

Depending upon which news source one believes plans are to bring remains of both husband and wife back to USA.

https://thecount.com/tag/paul-nielse...tive-gofundme/


The GoFundMe campagin is for the son mostly it seems, and has raised far in excess of original request.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/paul-nielsen-memorial
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Old 07-24-2019, 11:24 PM
 
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If you believe some news sources local Mexican LE are likely culprits.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/utah-m...ld-son-wounded


Why anyone goes down to that heck hole of a country I don't know. Elected (if you can call them that) officials, military, law enforcement, the lot are just as crooked and criminal as the thugs, cartels and gangs. Often they are all the same.
Its basically the same thing in the US... its just not flaunted as much out in the open as Mexico is, its more hidden/disguised in the US.
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BugsyPal View Post
Warning! Disturbing Crime Scene Pictures:

https://scallywagandvagabond.com/201...cution-deaths/

Depending upon which news source one believes plans are to bring remains of both husband and wife back to USA.

https://thecount.com/tag/paul-nielse...tive-gofundme/


The GoFundMe campagin is for the son mostly it seems, and has raised far in excess of original request.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/paul-nielsen-memorial
The boy who has been shot has been identified in the media as "Kevin" (no last name) and 12 years old. The person who is the beneficiary of the GoFundMe is named Jacob Nielsen, and is presumedly an adult since he will be in charge of dispersing a large sum of money.

I don't see anywhere in the GoFundMe that there is any effort whatsoever to bring Janeth's remains, and Kevin to the US.
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Old 07-25-2019, 08:22 AM
Status: "I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out." (set 9 days ago)
 
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The preliminary state department statement:

“We are aware of reports of the death of Paul Nielsen in the Mexican state of Guerrero. We extend our sincerest condolences to Mr. Nielsen’s family. Out of respect for the family during this difficult time, we do not have additional information to provide.”

No mention of a wife and son, who would be the State Department's concern if they were US citizens and the family of a US citizen traveling abroad. And "out of respect for the family", we're not sayin' nuthin' else.

https://fox13now.com/2019/07/19/utah...an-checkpoint/
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