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Old 01-17-2020, 08:41 AM
 
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China's birth rate has fallen to its lowest since the formation of the People's Republic of China 70 years ago - despite the easing of the one-child policy.
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Old 01-17-2020, 08:54 AM
 
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14 million births in 2019 and they are worried.
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Old 01-17-2020, 10:16 AM
 
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Glad to hear it!
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Old 01-17-2020, 10:20 AM
 
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14 million births in 2019 and they are worried.
It's not the total number of births that is the issue - it's the percentage. 14 million births in a nation of a billion means you're not going to have the young people to take care of the elderly. Of course, considering China's track record, they could just NOT take care of the elderly, and pretty soon, time will solve the problem. The young people aren't going to mount a revolution over that, and the elderly are too old to mount a revolution.
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Old 01-17-2020, 11:18 AM
 
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It's not the total number of births that is the issue - it's the percentage. 14 million births in a nation of a billion means you're not going to have the young people to take care of the elderly. Of course, considering China's track record, they could just NOT take care of the elderly, and pretty soon, time will solve the problem. The young people aren't going to mount a revolution over that, and the elderly are too old to mount a revolution.
And this has never been proven in any society throughout history.
They are worried about something that has never happened and likely will never happen. The more present worry should be what effects our continuing propagation has on the environment and infrastructure. Will there be jobs other than wiping old people's butts.
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Old 01-17-2020, 02:22 PM
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And this has never been proven in any society throughout history.
They are worried about something that has never happened and likely will never happen. The more present worry should be what effects our continuing propagation has on the environment and infrastructure. Will there be jobs other than wiping old people's butts.
Well, of course it's never happened because we haven't had a society that chose not to reproduce.

WWII in England, and the Civil War in some parts of the South, wiped out a generation of young men so there weren't babies produced in the next generation, but that left women who weren't busy taking care of children, to care for the elderly.
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Old 01-17-2020, 02:26 PM
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But wait. That's a weird stat.

So, the birth rate was this low 70 years ago? Then what was all the hoopla about a population spiraling out of control, that caused the one child law?

If they were in a crisis of not having enough people 70 years ago, I would think it would take longer than a generation to have such a boom you have to restrict families to one child.
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Old 01-17-2020, 02:59 PM
 
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How many of those Chinese have moved to Singapore, Vancouver or elsewhere?
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Old 01-17-2020, 03:37 PM
 
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But wait. That's a weird stat.

So, the birth rate was this low 70 years ago? Then what was all the hoopla about a population spiraling out of control, that caused the one child law?

If they were in a crisis of not having enough people 70 years ago, I would think it would take longer than a generation to have such a boom you have to restrict families to one child.
The People's Republic of China was founded in 1949. I'm pretty sure there was no way to accurately measure the birth rate in China during the two decades prior to that, as China was wracked and split by a bitter civil war and a Japanese invasion and occupation.

No one is saying that the birth rate was lower in 1949 - that's just as far back as the compiled data goes.
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Old 01-17-2020, 04:54 PM
 
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Has anyone correlated the birthrate data with level of women's education? Usually when women become educated, the birthrate drops. There was something I read somewhere within the past few months that suggested the worldwide population growth will eventually come from some of the middle of the African continent populations since they don't have as widespread education among the females in their population. That had also predicted a zero population growth across the planet in about eighty years. Not sure how they came up with that, though.


Japan already has a problem with not enough young people to take care of the older people. They've started working out personal robots for a lot of the lack of personal workers.
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