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One of the Ship's insurers has filed an appeal of the detention in court. Hearing set for early May. Insurer claims the SCA is claiming $300M in "Salvage Bonus" and $300M for loss of reputation.
I wonder what the other $300 is for......
It could cover the expense of the equipment and machinery used to clear the way and damage to the canal itself by the dredging while also compensating about 800 people who worked to release the 200,000-ton ship.
The SCA didn’t include the professional salvor’s claim for its services, which owners and their hull underwriters expect to receive separately.
Update:
The head of the Suez Canal Authority denied that the crew members of the Ever Given were unable to leave the ship, which remains impounded almost a month after it was unstuck.
The SCA said on Monday that crew members were allowed to come and go — with some exceptions.
The crew members are free to leave or be replaced "provided the presence of the sufficient number of sailors to secure the vessel," the statement said, adding that the captain was not allowed to leave because he is the ship's legal guardian.
Update:
The head of the Suez Canal Authority denied that the crew members of the Ever Given were unable to leave the ship, which remains impounded almost a month after it was unstuck.
The SCA said on Monday that crew members were allowed to come and go — with some exceptions.
The crew members are free to leave or be replaced "provided the presence of the sufficient number of sailors to secure the vessel," the statement said, adding that the captain was not allowed to leave because he is the ship's legal guardian.
I would think that the Evergreen Marine Corp. could relieve the captain of his command, appoint another one to replace him, and send the new captain out to the Ever Given. Then the former captain could go home, get some rest, then be appointed as the captain of another ship. Rinse and repeat as long as necessary. I guess the captain is going to find out how much his company cares about him.
It's usually very hard to find any kind of replacement in such situation.
This is not a military where staff could be appointed. Commercial ships operate on contract. A ship or a part of it is chartered. The crew is hired for the voyage charter or time charter. In this situation replacements tend to be very complicated.
You need to read about contracts of affreightment.
There is a battle between the SCA and the ship’s Japanese owner, Shoei Kisen, as well as the Ever Given’s operator, Bernard Schulte (BSM), and their insurers. Ever Given’s owners were contesting the majority of the huge sum and “they do not want to pay anything”.
Till the legalities are resolved the captain must stay there as a legal guardian. He might be relieved in an emergency health situation.
Two things can happen - the fees will be negotiated and paid or the ship will be auctioned as abandoned. The cargo is usually not auctioned, but things will get really complicated. https://www.imo.org/en/OurWork/Legal...andonment.aspx
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Ever Given sailing under the Panamanian flag, owned by a Japanese company, operated by a German company, staffed by Indians and has no international guarantees of rights for its workers not to end up in a kind of floating solitary confinement.
I would think that the Evergreen Marine Corp. could relieve the captain of his command, appoint another one to replace him, and send the new captain out to the Ever Given. Then the former captain could go home, get some rest, then be appointed as the captain of another ship. Rinse and repeat as long as necessary. I guess the captain is going to find out how much his company cares about him.
The companies don't care. Look at the other similar stories elnina has shared.
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Originally Posted by elnina
It's usually very hard to find any kind of replacement in such situation.
This is not a military where staff could be appointed. Commercial ships operate on contract. A ship or a part of it is chartered. The crew is hired for the voyage charter or time charter. In this situation replacements tend to be very complicated.
You need to read about contracts of affreightment.
Theew is a battle between the SCA and the ship’s Japanese owner, Shoei Kisen, as well as the Ever Given’s operator, Bernard Schulte (BSM), and their insurers. Ever Given’s owners were contesting the majority of the huge sum and “they do not want to pay anything”.
Till the legalities are resolved the captain must stay there as a legal guardian. He might be relieved in an emergency health situation.
Two things can happen - the fees will be negotiated and paid or the ship will be auctioned as abandoned. The cargo is usually not auctioned, but things will get really complicated. https://www.imo.org/en/OurWork/Legal...andonment.aspx
Post #121:
Ever Given sailing under the Panamanian flag, owned by a Japanese company, operated by a German company, staffed by Indians and has no international guarantees of rights for its workers not to end up in a kind of floating solitary confinement.
You'd think insurance would cover a lot of the bill.
It still floors me that the Suez Canal is not eating some of the cost since it was their employees who got the ship stuck. Apparently, that doesn't seem to matter.
I wonder how many people realize the ship is still stuck there. People probably stopped following the story once it was unstuck.
News stories have very short life. In average between 14 hrs to 2.5 days - depending on the story.
This is the latest update:
Ever Given crew members (3) whose work contracts have expired are allowed to leave the impounded ship and return home. Two were allowed to leave in early April due to personal reasons.
At the time of the ship's grounding, all 26 crew members on board were within the terms of their contracts. https://www.businessinsider.com/thre...ies-say-2021-5
As per rules and regulations pilots only offer guidance, the captain is solely responsible for any action.
We don't know the details. It's possible that the captain disregarded their advice. Or perhaps the crew didn’t react fast enough to events because they were almost certainly exhausted. It was probably a complex series of events - a chain of greater and greater mishap.
As per rules and regulations pilots only offer guidance, the captain is solely responsible for any action.
We don't know the details. It's possible that the captain disregarded their advice. Or perhaps the crew didn’t react fast enough to events because they were almost certainly exhausted. It was probably a complex series of events - a chain of greater and greater mishap.
IIRC, pilots on the Panama Canal actually take command of the vessel under their charge (or at least take charge of the ship's navigation), and they are solely responsible for any mishaps. I wonder if that wouldn't be a better model to follow than what the Suez Canal apparently does.
Suez Canal doesn't want this kind of liability. I think, Panama Canal pilots regulations are one of a kind.
Re-posting a link to those regulations around the world: https://www.gard.no/web/updates/cont...0/pilotage-law
Update:
Egypt offered to drop $300 million of its $916 million lawsuit over the Ever Given, which is still impounded 30 miles from where it got stuck. The head of the Suez Canal Authority said they would now seek around $600 million.
Ever Given insurer says Suez Canal’s reduced claim is still too high.
An Egyptian investigation into the incident found no wrongdoing by the SCA or its pilots, the sources said, without elaborating.
Update:
Egypt offered to drop $300 million of its $916 million lawsuit over the Ever Given, which is still impounded 30 miles from where it got stuck. The head of the Suez Canal Authority said they would now seek around $600 million.
Ever Given insurer says Suez Canal’s reduced claim is still too high.
An Egyptian investigation into the incident found no wrongdoing by the SCA or its pilots, the sources said, without elaborating.
I agree with the owners, what they're asking for is way too high. I honestly can't see how the owners will win this one though.
Of course their pilots did no wrong, even though they're the ones who ran the ship aground.
I still say if they would send a reasonable bill, it would be paid, the ship can leave but apparently they're known to do things like this over there. It surely wouldn't fly in America. It would be a few hundred thousand dollar bill, not in the millions.
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