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It's going to be interesting to see what underwater inspections show. In 1950, the battleship U.S.S. Missouri grounded in Chesapeake Bay, and it took two weeks to free her, with extensive repairs needed afterward to her hull. So I kind of doubt Ever Given is simply going to sail out to sea after this incident without an extensive inspection and possible repairs. Large ships just aren't meant to have their immense weight focused on relatively small areas of their hulls. Are there drydock facilities located near the canal? Even if there are, the ship may need to be unloaded prior to repairs, anybody waiting on their new widget inside one of those shipping containers had better be patient. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_U...ouri_grounding
Edit: Mr. In Between's link mentioned the ship will go to an Egyptian lake for inspection. LOVE that show, BTW (Mr. In Between), hope it's renewed soon.
This is a clear example of why we need to not be dependent on world trade. If we made the stuff we need here in the USA, this wouldn't be a concern, would it?
Nowhere is immune to supply chain issues. We have canals (the Great Lakes locks, for example). We have rivers that flood and become impassable to barge traffic. We have earthquakes and hurricanes and blizzards that affect waterways and rail and freeways. And? We work around it.
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Besides, who needs a bunch of cheap IKEA furniture anyhow? We've got enough "stuff" here in America to last us a decade, if push came to shove.
Doom, this is not. Fun and games for the money men playing the markets, yes.
So.. this is both irrelevant and at the same time 'a clear example of why we need to not be dependent on world trade'?
Also - IKEA stuff comes from Sweden and China. It's not using the Suez Canal to get to the United States.
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I do feel kinda bad for the captain of that mighty ship, though.
You actually think captains - and not local Suez-based pilots - are guiding ships through the canal?
Nowhere is immune to supply chain issues. We have canals (the Great Lakes locks, for example). We have rivers that flood and become impassable to barge traffic. We have earthquakes and hurricanes and blizzards that affect waterways and rail and freeways. And? We work around it.
So.. this is both irrelevant and at the same time 'a clear example of why we need to not be dependent on world trade'?
Also - IKEA stuff comes from Sweden and China. It's not using the Suez Canal to get to the United States.
You actually think captains - and not local Suez-based pilots - are guiding ships through the canal?
I agree the Suez based, pilots were guiding the ship through. I read High winds from a sand storm may have blown it off course.
To the poster who used the rep function to anonymously leave this gem: China to USA would go through the Suez, consult a map.
Ahem.
Shanghai to the east coast of the United States via the Pacific Ocean and the Panama Canal is five weeks. Via the Indian Ocean/Suez/Atlantic Ocean is six weeks. If you'll notice, six weeks is longer than five weeks. Of course, the transit time from China to Los Angeles is a mere two to three weeks.
You're right. Someone definitely needs to consult a map. And to understand how to read one.
Someone also needs to understand trade. More than a third of U.S. imports from China arrive via air. The two busiest ports receiving Chinese surface shipping are Los Angeles and Long Beach, followed by Oakland and Seattle. From those ports, it is distributed across the country by what is by far that largest freight rail system in the world.
I've been following the story. What a mess. The dang thing shouldn't be so large that it would/could get stuck sideways in the first place. Shorter ship or wider canal.
Even I figured that out.
I thought they should ban it but apparently it was a bad sand and wind storm, freak thing
Thanks, seems all of the links have updated to say freed but they don't say how it happened. Your link said they had given up because high tide apparently didn't work, but a link before yours said they thanked all Egyptians who participated to refloat the boat. Makes no sense.
To the poster who used the rep function to anonymously leave this gem: China to USA would go through the Suez, consult a map.
Ahem.
Shanghai to the east coast of the United States via the Pacific Ocean and the Panama Canal is five weeks. Via the Indian Ocean/Suez/Atlantic Ocean is six weeks. If you'll notice, six weeks is longer than five weeks. Of course, the transit time from China to Los Angeles is a mere two to three weeks.
You're right. Someone definitely needs to consult a map. And to understand how to read one.
Someone also needs to understand trade. More than a third of U.S. imports from China arrive via air. The two busiest ports receiving Chinese surface shipping are Los Angeles and Long Beach, followed by Oakland and Seattle. From those ports, it is distributed across the country by what is by far that largest freight rail system in the world.
'consult a map'...
I learned something today (bolded), thank you. I have to wonder what the increased cost of air-freighting these goods is, vs. the benefit of reduced time in receiving them, even though air freight reduces the need to ship-by-rail said goods? Important for food and medicines, I imagine, but for stuff like washing machines? What is the typical cut-off point? Those "Logistics" specialists likely earn their paychecks.
Forty years ago, while working as a roofer, I opened up a fifty-pound box of nails with Chinese or Japanese writing on it. I couldn't figure out how they could make something as simple as "nails", of all things, on the other side of the world, and then pay to ship them to the U.S. for less than they could be made here, especially since a country like Japan has to import the energy and iron ore to make them to begin with. I'm still not sure, to be honest.
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