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I watch a lot of “liberal” news and never saw any promotion of Mexico as a peaceful wonderful place. Only stories about treatment of refugees. I never saw any news channel promote any vacation spot as part of the news. Do you have clips or links to support this claim?
I'm not sure what you were watching, but it wasn't the "liberal news". They were the ones that were all atwitter when Trump said that by leaving our border unsecured we were leaving the doors open for violent criminals, including rapists and murderers, to enter our country. According to the MSM, there are no rapists and murderers in Mexico, everyone is just a hard working, law abiding citizen. And as such they should be free to enter and live in this country at will.
It's not that hard to get a rifle in Mexico. You can't own a military caliber, but other rifles are OK. The bad guys get guns the old fashioned way, theft or smuggling. Or from soldiers who steal them to sell.
The docus I watch makes it seem hard to get a gun. There is only one store located in Mexico City and is owned by government.
Do you mean, you can have anything besides 223 Rem, 9mm and 308 Win, such as 380 ACP, 10mm, 30-30 Win, and up to 338 Lapua? I assume the former are the military calibres.
You know so much about things that simply aren't true.
In the 1950s through the late 1980s... Russia invested HEAVILY in South and Central America in propaganda... literally manipulating political parties and promoting Communist parties. The United States, seeing this happen basically just south, funneled money into WHATEVER political party stood a chance to compete against the Communist parties. Sometimes this was a Democracy-leaning party... other times it was the Socialist party ... whatever stood the best chance at beating the Communist party.
Had the United States not intervened, pretty much all of South and Central America would be Communist. There'd have been a hell of a lot more war, and millions likely dead from famine and starvation.
US intervention in South and Central America has mostly been for stabilization. Panama, Nicaragua, Grenada, etc. We can debate whether or not the United States has any business doing this, but if we did nothing, these countries would likely be in even worse shape. I'm not a fan of intervention...
To answer your first question... when Trump was first running for office. Everyone seemed to take offense to a perceived slight towards Mexico. As a result, every media outlet and news station thought they were doing "Gods work" by trying to make Mexico seem like it's a cultural marvel and such a fantastic place to go... and as a result a lot of people started visiting and going on vacation intentionally to support Mexico because they felt it would be a slight to Trump (I guess). This has largely calmed down, but people who don't really pay attention still think Mexico is a nice calm place to visit.
Now... I'm not downing Mexican culture. Before AOC's distant relative (Hernan Cortez) laid waste to, and thus destroying the entire Aztek society, there was a very vibrant culture. Much of that still remains, and the homogenization between Native American and Spanish culture is pretty fantastic. Mexico City is a beautiful place, and there's a lot of gorgeous things to see in Mexico (such as the Monarch butterfly trees, etc.). Like the United States, Mexico is incredibly diverse, and not everyone eats "Mexican food." You have unique cultures throughout the country just as in the US people are different whether they're from New Orleans, Miami, New York, or San Francisco.
But never the less, the Government of Mexico does not really control a lot of the country... the drug gangs do. Same problem in much of Central America including Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvadore. Politicians are constantly getting assassinated, so the only ones who get through basically promise to "turn a blind eye."
Would love to see all of South and Central America turn around. My mom is from Argentina... she fled the Peronista regime back when she was just a teenager. The resources, culture, etc... are all fantastic, but it's what it is... enormous crime. 97% Catholic, yet constant death and murder... all of which makes its way to the United States in the form of drugs, which then kill our young people and our most vulnerable.
Russia, either directly or indirectly via intermediaries: far-Left parties in Europe, funded ALL far-Left parties in Latin America, including Socialist Parties, except for Maoist parties. The US government was prohibited from funding Socialist parties during and after the McCarthy Era, which included the 1950's.
The US outright staged coups in Guatemala in the 50's', which did result in chronic guerrilla warfare that eventually blew up into a genocidal war, and Chile in 1973, which resulted in horrific abuses, torturing, and disappearances (later discovered to be executions) of innocent people. (to name two well-documented US-orchestrated coups) In some instances, these anti-democratic actions had far less to do with any perceived Leftist threat (though that's how they were presented to gullible Presidents), than with highly-placed government officials wanting to protect their business interests, being heavily invested in companies like United Fruit.
"Stabilization" in Panama? The US installed Manuel Noriega there, a move that blew up in their face later. The US-backed coup that removed Peron from the Presidency in Argentina introduced the bloodiest dictatorship in the history of the country, with right-wing death squads operating with impunity. Many say, that such death squads (in Guatemala and elsewhere, as well) received training in the US from the infamous "School of the Americas". Just what, exactly, are such regimes stabilizing? And was the US' idea of "stabilization" worth the price the country paid? The same thing happened in Chile after the US coup. These extreme measures nearly always backfire.
Back to the Mexico topic, media outlets had no interest in doing "God's work". Do you live in the Bible Belt, by any chance? This is a strange take on the media's agenda. Most people were, and still are, well aware that Mexico is dangerous. That doesn't mean specific tourist spots are unsafe, nor does it mean there aren't good people there, but that going off the beaten path can lead to unpleasant, even fatal, surprises. If naive young people reacted to the prior President's anti-illegal-immigration rhetoric by going to Mexico due to a misguided sense of mission to support...what exactly? How, exactly? , that hardly represents the vast majority of Americans.
And btw, the US is still investing heavily in anti-Left propaganda, and trying to influence elections or outright backing coups, and in the case of Honduras, has succeeded several times. And people wonder why there's been a significant increase in illegal immigration (refugees from US-installed corrupt, violent regimes) from Honduras in the 21st Century, including the relatively new phenomenon of children unaccompanied by adults looking for a safe place to call home. The President of Honduras installed by a US-backed coup later was exposed in US court as a drug trafficker. https://theconversation.com/how-us-p...igration-65935
Of course, conservatives (often with business interests in Latin America) constantly use the Communism bogeyman, the old domino theory that worked so well to justify the war in Vietnam (at first), invoking either Cuban influence, more recently--Venezuelan influence, to justify the meddling. The US needs to face the fact, that its own heavy-handed approach to governance in Latin America is what drives popular interest in far-Left politics.
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You can find various news stories of naive young people brought up to believe in the goodness of one and all, that evil is just a made-up idea, who went trekking through countries on the State Department's Do Not Travel list. Typically in the Middle East or in central Asia. Murdered by locals.
The docus I watch makes it seem hard to get a gun. There is only one store located in Mexico City and is owned by government.
Do you mean, you can have anything besides 223 Rem, 9mm and 308 Win, such as 380 ACP, 10mm, 30-30 Win, and up to 338 Lapua? I assume the former are the military calibres.
I'm not sure what you were watching, but it wasn't the "liberal news". They were the ones that were all atwitter when Trump said that by leaving our border unsecured we were leaving the doors open for violent criminals, including rapists and murderers, to enter our country. According to the MSM, there are no rapists and murderers in Mexico, everyone is just a hard working, law abiding citizen. And as such they should be free to enter and live in this country at will.
I never heard anything like that, sorry. No news channels ever said there were no criminals or rapists in Mexico and that everyone there was law abiding. Again, post a link of a news channel saying that.
Most of the refugees trying to come then weren't actually Mexican anyway, they were Central American refugees coming here through Mexico.
And this is the quoted post I was responding to, which is just ridiculously inaccurate:
"Everyone seemed to take offense to a perceived slight towards Mexico. As a result, every media outlet and news station thought they were doing "Gods work" by trying to make Mexico seem like it's a cultural marvel and such a fantastic place to go... and as a result a lot of people started visiting and going on vacation intentionally to support Mexico because they felt it would be a slight to Trump"
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