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Old 05-15-2022, 11:04 PM
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A few years ago, a female prison employee at Dannemora helped 2 convicted murderers escape, prompting a massive manhunt before they were located 3 weeks later. She was allegedly having sexual relationships with both of them.
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Old 05-16-2022, 12:10 AM
 
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I purposely changed the title from that of the article:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...91a1888fce37a2

First the case in Alabama, now this. What is it with these women who are paid to guard the criminals in their jails, but instead break them out? What could have possibly led this young woman to think that it would be a good idea to let these three dangerous criminals out of jail? I have my theories, but they aren't PC, so I'm going to keep my trap shut.
Great idea for a thread, but why post it in CE section, instead of P&C section to where you/we can discuss non-PC views?
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Old 05-16-2022, 12:21 AM
 
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Proof that gender dynamics can't be avoided when you throw men and women together.

I do agree that the caring instinct is more prevalent in women, and that it leads to these romantic entanglements.

I disagree with the stereotype that these women fall for their incarcerated charges because they just like bad boys. I don't even know what that means and would like to have a hard sit down with the person who originated this platitude. Fact is that correctional staff spend the majority of their waking hours with the prisoners. They spend more time with them than they do with their families (realities of our workplace lives). They get to know the inmates very personally, some of which is necessitated by their job. They see them at their best, at their worst and everywhere in between. Sometimes they see them in very vulnerable situations (like talking them out of a suicide plan -- suicide rates are high in prisons and jails). They see them work, eat, pray, go to therapy, go to medical. They read their mail. They dispense their meds. See them naked. Everything that you could possibly imagine knowing about a person, they get to see.

Then they go home to walk the dog, eat dinner, and go to sleep. If their personal lives are empty, it leaves them wide open to form attachments with people they've come to know quite personally.
A hard sit down?

This phenomenon is not new, as I recall a couple of women who voluntarily corresponded with inmates decades ago.
When I confronted one of them, she said she felt sorry for them being all alone, thus empathized with them in the sense she would want someone on the outside to communicate with her, if she was an inmate.

As to female prison guards overseeing male prisoners, like most of the ills of affirmative action, they are ill equipped to deal with male prisoners physically, much less emotionally.
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Old 05-16-2022, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Troy, NY
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A few years ago, a female prison employee at Dannemora helped 2 convicted murderers escape, prompting a massive manhunt before they were located 3 weeks later. She was allegedly having sexual relationships with both of them.

I still laugh when I think about how most people never heard of Dannemora, or had a clue where it was.

Those guys had under 3 weeks to travel 20 miles to the Canadian Border. They could have easily done that in under 7-10 hours.
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Old 05-16-2022, 05:53 AM
 
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Well, guess Victoria “the guard†isn’t going to marry any time soon.

https://www.theknot.com/us/victoria-...berts-oct-2022
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Old 05-16-2022, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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She looks pretty pleased with herself in her mugshot.

Who knows what was going through her head at the time.
Pretty sure that's a work ID photo and not her mug shot.
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Old 05-16-2022, 06:02 AM
 
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I have my theories too... and there are so many possibilities. My overwhelming gut feeling is that she possibly saw them get 'mistreated' in some way. She was in a position to 'help' them out and she did.
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Old 05-16-2022, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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She looks pretty pleased with herself in her mugshot.

Who knows what was going through her head at the time.
There was nothing good or intelligent going through her head at the time. What an ignoramus.
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Old 05-16-2022, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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I purposely changed the title from that of the article:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...91a1888fce37a2
Unlike many young female teachers that "get in trouble", these jail guards are never hot. Disappointing.
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Old 05-16-2022, 07:58 AM
 
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Looks like she was engaged to be married October 2022.

https://www.theknot.com/us/victoria-...berts-oct-2022

Interview with her mom out there on youtube that mentions tunes boyfriend may have known these guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU5xTV_xaag
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