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Old 05-19-2022, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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This is crazy. Going to your local supermarket, pharmacy, etc could turn deadly by simply getting in or out of your car. Mere teenagers are the culprits.


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Old 05-19-2022, 12:05 PM
 
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This is just one of many lately. I think there were 3 shootings on the local news that same day. It's crazy seeing them shoot. They obviously have no training. I think these were the guys who hit a house.
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Old 05-21-2022, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Back in the gym...Yo Adrian!
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We need to start holding parents of these teens and minors accountable when their violent offspring decide to go on shooting sprees. Doesn’t matter if it is gang related as this appears to be or some nutter with a manifesto like the one in Buffalo. Maybe when parents have to be held accountable they will start taking a more active role in their kid’s lives.
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Old 05-22-2022, 02:35 AM
 
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This is crazy.
Yes shows how dangerous things are now for sure!!!

I dont know if holding parents liable would do any good to be honest!!
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Old 05-22-2022, 04:56 AM
 
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We need to start holding parents of these teens and minors accountable when their violent offspring decide to go on shooting sprees. Doesn’t matter if it is gang related as this appears to be or some nutter with a manifesto like the one in Buffalo. Maybe when parents have to be held accountable they will start taking a more active role in their kid’s lives.
A lot of time it’s single, working moms and no one is there to be involved. I never shot anyone but was definitely a delinquent. I cut school, drank, stole, did drugs, all while mom at work. I really can’t imagine what she could have done about it or even how she’d have known what I was doing.
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Old 05-22-2022, 06:50 AM
 
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A lot of time it’s single, working moms and no one is there to be involved. I never shot anyone but was definitely a delinquent. I cut school, drank, stole, did drugs, all while mom at work. I really can’t imagine what she could have done about it or even how she’d have known what I was doing.
I know it is politically incorrect to say this, but you need both parents to bring up a child. (Heard the dictum "it takes a village to raise a child"? I think we need atleast the parents).

Boys, especially in their teenage years, need a father figure who can provide them directions in life.
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Old 05-22-2022, 03:00 PM
 
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I know it is politically incorrect to say this, but you need both parents to bring up a child. (Heard the dictum "it takes a village to raise a child"? I think we need atleast the parents).

Boys, especially in their teenage years, need a father figure who can provide them directions in life.
I agree with that. I think it's a very large reason why so many kids grow up out of control today. I myself lost my father at age 5, and raised by a single mom after that, and went through a bad delinquent phase that lasted from my early teens to early 20's. But today delinquent definition is on steroids. But there was really nothing my mom could do about what I did, or even know what I was doing, while she was at work. I used to pretend to go out for the bus and instead hide in the laundry room (apartment complex) until I saw her leave for work, then me and my friends would have parties there. I was home when the mail came, so I would take the letters from school that said "your child has been absent 9 days this month" and my mom never saw them.

That's one of the reasons I don't think it's totally fair to blame parents.

I read a very interesting study once that followed orphaned young (adolescent) elephants in the wild. The pattern they were surprised to see, is the young elephants would band together (form gangs). They did things elephants raised by adult elephants don't normally do, like murder other animals for sport.
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Old 05-22-2022, 03:06 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Boys, especially in their teenage years, need a father figure who can provide them directions in life.
Dairy Farm boarding school worked for me.

Job? (my first was at age 12, by age 15 I had (3) jobs at once, and so that continued for 35 yrs)
Military (when eligible) is another option.

Keeping boys VERY busy with their hands while they are teenagers gives them a way to work out their energy. I had mine design and build their own houses during Jr High, and they went straight to college instead of HS. Not perfect, but they didn't have time or the energy to 'rebel'. They knew their alternative (Dairy Farm boarding school).
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