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Old 11-14-2022, 10:43 AM
 
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This is truly terrifying, brings back memories of the infamous Lexus car crash.

Not sure what happened here but it's hard to imagine the driver accidentally pressing on the accelerator by mistake, considering that it looked like he was braking before the sudden acceleration. Plus it looks like he's trying to avoid hitting others as well. Company says brake lights were not engaged, but who knows.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/stor...058-2022-11-14

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Tesla has pledged to find the truth behind the fatal Y-model car crash that claimed the lives of a motorcyclist and a high school girl and injured three others in Chaozhou city, which is located along the Chinese coast just northeast of Hong Kong on November 5.

CCTV footage showed a Tesla Model Y speeding down the road at alarmingly high speeds, hitting numerous cyclists and drivers along the way before crashing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kf3I_OyDlI
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Old 11-14-2022, 11:23 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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With any other make, such an incident is 99% is a driver medical event of the time. With the Tesla, it's most likely another failure of the autopilot system.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...pilot-crashes/
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Old 11-14-2022, 02:37 PM
 
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With any other make, such an incident is 99% is a driver medical event of the time. With the Tesla, it's most likely another failure of the autopilot system.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...pilot-crashes/
They should be able to tell from the computer what was going on.

I'll stick with the driver being at fault unless something solid arises.

(Your article is pay-walled)
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Old 11-14-2022, 02:57 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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They should be able to tell from the computer what was going on.

I'll stick with the driver being at fault unless something solid arises.

(Your article is pay-walled)
That's odd, not for me, it has a place to sign up but I can read the article. Here are some others:

https://electrek.co/2022/08/30/tesla...n%20Autopilot.


https://fortune.com/2022/06/09/inves...dministration/

https://apnews.com/article/technolog...8c5543d3a1c66c
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Old 11-14-2022, 03:39 PM
 
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Chinese Hacker goes Skynet.
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Old 11-14-2022, 05:09 PM
 
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The company is saying the brake lights were not engaged during the incident (somehow they had the data).

That's weird because it sure looks like the driver was able to brake before suddenly turning back onto the road and quickly accelerating.

I don't think it's a medical emergency because I can't think of one that would cause someone to step on the gas pedal continuously, and to me it looked the driver was doing what he could to avoid hitting vehicles and people on bikes and the road.

Very weird.
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:46 PM
 
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The company is saying the brake lights were not engaged during the incident (somehow they had the data).

That's weird because it sure looks like the driver was able to brake before suddenly turning back onto the road and quickly accelerating.

I don't think it's a medical emergency because I can't think of one that would cause someone to step on the gas pedal continuously, and to me it looked the driver was doing what he could to avoid hitting vehicles and people on bikes and the road.

Very weird.
We've had stories in recent years where people have had crashes, blame the car and it turns out they had like 4 floormats and a floor full of trash that got wedged under their break pedal.

Then there was the elderly woman that caused the "Piggly Wiggly Massacre" (no one hurt but wrecked a ton of cars at the parking lot, hilarious if you've never seen it on youtube).

Literally an infinite number of possibilities so until there is something concrete. *shrug*.
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Old 11-15-2022, 09:48 PM
 
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More than 1,000 Teslas recalled in Australia over steering fault, days after fatal crash in China

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...al-crash-china
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Old 11-16-2022, 01:58 PM
 
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With any other make, such an incident is 99% is a driver medical event of the time. With the Tesla, it's most likely another failure of the autopilot system.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...pilot-crashes/


Can you point out where the cited article arrives at that conclusion based on facts? I can't seem to find any statement remotely close to that.
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Old 11-16-2022, 02:03 PM
 
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This is truly terrifying, brings back memories of the infamous Lexus car crash.

Not sure what happened here but it's hard to imagine the driver accidentally pressing on the accelerator by mistake, considering that it looked like he was braking before the sudden acceleration. Plus it looks like he's trying to avoid hitting others as well. Company says brake lights were not engaged, but who knows.


I find it also brings back memories of the hatchet job Sixty Minutes once did on an Audi 5000 'unintended acceleration' fiasco when it turned out the driver did have their foot on the accelerator.
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