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Old 11-16-2022, 03:43 PM
 
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Oh, come on.

OSHA has fewer than 1,900 inspectors and they're responsible for the health and safety of 130,000,000 workers at 8,000,000 worksites. That's eight million worksites. Exactly how are they supposed to inspect all those worksites for safety violations? That works out to 1 inspector for every 4,300 worksites. If every inspector in the agency inspected a job site each and every workday, it would take over 16 years to inspect every place once. And it would be 16 years between inspections.

OSHA make rules that employers are expected to follow. And they make spot checks to see if they are. But it is the employer who bears ultimate responsibility for ensuring that safety rules for their company are enacted and enforced.
Agreed, it's not physically possible for OHSA to inspect every jobsite. Often an unsafe condition must be reported, before OHSA to visits a location. Difficult to place blame on OHSA, unless they visited the location prior and failed to address the hazard.
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Old 11-16-2022, 04:00 PM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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In general I'm not a huge fan of lawsuits. Too many people fail to use common sense or follow safety procedures that are in place. But in this case I say full speed ahead, sue them for all you can get!

I do wonder if/why no complaint ever was filed by current or former employees about unsafe working conditions.
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Old 11-16-2022, 04:03 PM
 
Location: New England
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Horrible way to die.
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Old 11-16-2022, 04:15 PM
 
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Gee, ya think? Such a simple thing as a guardrail, but the employer was too cheap to install any. Unbelievable. Horrible. And for routinely exposing employees to high risk, and now--causing a death, they're only getting a slap on the wrist: a $147,000 fine. Wait until the family of the deceased launches a wrongful death suit. Hopefully it will amount to more than a slap on the wrist.
There would likely be punitive damages in addition to general liability, especially if there was an inspection and a documented recommendation that the employer install guard rails.
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Old 11-16-2022, 04:18 PM
 
Location: MN
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I’m surprised the Germans didn’t think of this in 1942 at the Wannsee Conference the 2001 movie Conspiracy was based on. End result is steel for the war effort.
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Old 11-16-2022, 04:23 PM
 
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Wow! RIP!

Maybe the equipment was grandfathered in... I'm not sure why else there would not be safety measures.
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Old 11-16-2022, 04:30 PM
 
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Lava is 2,200 degrees Fahrenheit. His death was diabolical.
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Old 11-16-2022, 05:20 PM
 
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Killed instantly. At least he probably didn't have time to feel much pain.

“A Caterpillar employee was “immediately incinerated” when he fell into an 11-foot-deep pot of molten iron heated to more than 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit, according to the U.S. Occupational Safety and Health Administration “

https://www.wifr.com/2022/11/15/cate...ron-osha-says/

BIG suit on the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


(Not that that helps family's grief)
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Old 11-16-2022, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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Killed instantly. At least he probably didn't have time to feel much pain.

“A Caterpillar employee was “immediately incinerated” when he fell into an 11-foot-deep pot of molten iron heated to more than 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit, according to the U.S. Occupational Safety and Health Administration “

https://www.wifr.com/2022/11/15/cate...ron-osha-says/
"The employee who died was a melting specialist who was removing a sample of iron from a furnace when he fell into the melting pot."

Perhaps that's a fitting way for a melting specialist to die.

What I'm wondering is how on earth did he "fall" into an extremely dangerous pot of molten iron?

After only nine days on the job, you'd think he'd still be on high alert around it.
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Old 11-16-2022, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Gee, ya think? Such a simple thing as a guardrail, but the employer was too cheap to install any. Unbelievable. Horrible. And for routinely exposing employees to high risk, and now--causing a death, they're only getting a slap on the wrist: a $147,000 fine. Wait until the family of the deceased launches a wrongful death suit. Hopefully it will amount to more than a slap on the wrist.
Yeah, the OSHA fine will pale in comparison to the civil settlement.

In some cases it's not so easy. Roofing for example it's hell to get the employees to wear the required safety harnesses as they're annoying. Ultimately it's the employer's responsibility though and when the employee who has been written up five times for not wearing a harness but not terminated does a swan dive... still employer's responsibility.
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