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Old 04-25-2023, 07:46 PM
 
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But wouldnt a different doctor know the extent of his previous surgery and say enough.


That's also what I was thinking at first. Just wondered if maybe it's different in other countries. Could be that he was going to different doctors who didn't care about the outcome, only the money.
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Old 04-25-2023, 08:47 PM
 
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But wouldn't a different doctor know the extent of his previous surgery and say enough.


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That's also what I was thinking at first. Just wondered if maybe it's different in other countries. Could be that he was going to different doctors who didn't care about the outcome, only the money.
I think you hit the nail on the head. He needed help and any good doctor that had morals (a rare commodity today) should have stepped in and refused to do the surgery and gotten him the psychological help that he needed. But doctors are only interested in making money, not getting to the root of the problem.

If the studio he was signed up with wanted him to get the surgery, chances are good that they are the ones who paid for it.
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Old 04-26-2023, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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who in the heck paid for all those surgeries? at 22 i was happy to afford groceries, there was no way i could afford 1 plastic surgery let alone 12 of 'em!
You were not a co-star in a TV series.
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Old 04-26-2023, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Western MA
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But wouldn't a different doctor know the extent of his previous surgery and say enough.




I think you hit the nail on the head. He needed help and any good doctor that had morals (a rare commodity today) should have stepped in and refused to do the surgery and gotten him the psychological help that he needed. But doctors are only interested in making money, not getting to the root of the problem.

If the studio he was signed up with wanted him to get the surgery, chances are good that they are the ones who paid for it.
And to add to that, chances are the doctors who would take him on for additional surgeries are not likely to be the best doctors either, furthering the chances for bad results and complications.
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Old 04-26-2023, 08:29 AM
 
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It is beyond pitiful that this guy thought so little of his appearance. Very pathetic story of our times.
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Old 04-26-2023, 11:02 AM
 
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I wouldn’t call it vanity. His agent called it insecurity. And unfortunately it probably is a necessary evil in some aspects of entertainment business to succeed.
Perhaps vanity is not the right word. Still cant convince me that that much surgery, to change ones appearance that much is any kind of necessity.
It is sad that today so many people are so obsessed with their physical appearance that it destroys their life. Perhaps too many people never face enough hardship and adversity to be thankful for what they already have. Maybe I can garner just a drop of sympathy for his mental illness and having no one to support him in a mentally positive way.
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Old 04-26-2023, 11:25 AM
 
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Perhaps vanity is not the right word. Still cant convince me that that much surgery, to change ones appearance that much is any kind of necessity.
It is sad that today so many people are so obsessed with their physical appearance that it destroys their life. Perhaps too many people never face enough hardship and adversity to be thankful for what they already have. Maybe I can garner just a drop of sympathy for his mental illness and having no one to support him in a mentally positive way.
You have to remember the world he was in. He was in the entertainment business, a world that is all about appearances. Where women eat carrot sticks for dinner cause if they gain 5 pounds they won't get hired, and who get cosmetic surgery because if they look over 30, they won't get hired. Throw in someone who is already insecure, which his agent said described him, and it's more understandable how someone could be obsessed with looks.

It really isn't that much different than pro athletes who were injecting themselves with steroids to be better, to keep their jobs or to get hired in the first place. And not caring what it did to their insides or their brains, or if they got cancer (Lyle Alzado, former footballer who spent his last 6 months on earth telling kids not to use steroids and blaming them for his brain tumor). Better, faster, stronger, was all that counted.
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Old 04-26-2023, 11:51 AM
 
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You have to remember the world he was in. He was in the entertainment business, a world that is all about appearances. Where women eat carrot sticks for dinner cause if they gain 5 pounds they won't get hired, and who get cosmetic surgery because if they look over 30, they won't get hired. Throw in someone who is already insecure, which his agent said described him, and it's more understandable how someone could be obsessed with looks.

It really isn't that much different than pro athletes who were injecting themselves with steroids to be better, to keep their jobs or to get hired in the first place. And not caring what it did to their insides or their brains, or if they got cancer (Lyle Alzado, former footballer who spent his last 6 months on earth telling kids not to use steroids and blaming them for his brain tumor). Better, faster, stronger, was all that counted.
I realize that. I also realize we all have choices. Some more so than others.
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Old 04-26-2023, 01:38 PM
 
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In Los Angeles the women have facelifts but can't lift the skin on their arms which look awful. The husbands are older but look much better as they haven't been in the sun.
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Old 04-26-2023, 02:37 PM
 
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In Los Angeles the women have facelifts but can't lift the skin on their arms which look awful. The husbands are older but look much better as they haven't been in the sun.
You can get the excess skin removed and tightened. They have to do this frequently for very obese people who get bariatric surgery and lose 100+ pounds. It's expensive for the entire body but just arms shouldn't be that much. I had liposuction in my late 30's and that was one of the areas I had done, and it looked much tighter afterward.
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