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"Blown out".....it is a common mistake.......although I suppose after decompression, the Venturi effect of the air stream could suck someone out (what we use to dewater a space). (all Trek humor intended)
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Originally Posted by Lodestar
I see the captain immediately took the plane down. Must have been a horrific moment for everyone.
I don't know much about safety measure on plane and maybe they have this. It would be a good idea to have some kind of a hidden mechanism by the door that you had to push in addition to opening the door. If you didn't something could drop down to keep people from being sucked out.
But then who is going to be instructed about the secret mechanism? And if you're high enough for people to get sucked out would a preventive bar make much difference?
Raises all kinds of questions for me. Hope I never have to find out.
Well, keep in mind it is an emergency exit.
Remember that in the Apollo command module, before the Apollo 1 fire, they were worried about accidental opening of that hatch and made it time consuming to open it......and that fire showed how incorrect that was.
It is an emergency exit and for every measure that someone can show to use against unintentional activation, I can show you the accident which would neutralize it. Take, for instance, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hughes_Airwest_Flight_706 (or TWA 800) where the cockpit was separated from the cabin (or Germanwings Flt 9525 where the cockpit was locked from the cabin). Now, in all those crashes, no one survived...but what if they did survive the impact and could not get out because the exits were locked (or not unlocked) from the cockpit?
Need weight on the wheels for them to open? How many wheels up crashes are there?
Finally, for as complex as we make the system, to counter all the what ifs, what will happen if our complex systems fail to operate....and they do at times. One only needs to look at the airspeed crashes due to a blocked pitot tube or static port.....or the plane's computers deciding something else.
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Originally Posted by Gerania
Thankfully it wasn't just me.
(ie, Shatner, The Twilight Zone)
I was thinking more of Airport or The New Avengers "Trap".....but not that one.
Last edited by TamaraSavannah; 05-30-2023 at 11:30 AM..
I see the captain immediately took the plane down.
The plane couldn't have been down any more immediately as it was about 3 miles and maybe 50 seconds from landing already anyway. Once the captain saw the "Door Ajar" button, hard to say what the simulator training is for that - but I imagine landing is preferable to going around.
I'm surprised no one got sucked out
At 700 feet - the plane is already depressurized. There is very little sucking or blowing. As Tamara pointed out, the venturi effect could do it - but unlikely for folks belted in. 200mph, not 600mph.
It would be a good idea to have some kind of a hidden mechanism by the door that you had to push in addition to opening the door.
No. It would be bad idea. The idea of the emergency exit is to let it be opened by anyone. They tell you how before the flight departs.
This guy should be charged with attempted murder. Luck, alone, prevented people from being sucked out or fatally injured by flying debris. He could have taken the whole plane and everyone on it down.
He should be locked up for a long time for this.
I saw an article today, he may be going to jail for 10 years. He's been locked up.
Apparently he had a panic attack, wasn't thinking clearly when he needed to open the door to get air or something.
I don't understand why the other passengers just didn't push him out and shut the door again. I would've.
My feelings exactly when I read about this incident. I'm picturing the usual message from flight crew that "we are making approach for landing everyone remain in your seat with seat belts fastened and secure all your loose belongings trays up etc..."
So, if I'm sitting first by the emergency exit row or near regular door and I see some idiot moving toward it and fiddling with it, I would be pulling them away (if door not released) to prevent, but if I was not close enough to notice or noticed to late I would be tempted to kick them out and close it (if possible) and go sit back down in my seat.
I don't understand why the other passengers just didn't push him out and shut the door again. I would've.
You would have stood in an open doorway of a plane and reached outside to try to grab the door, while the plane was flying? Good luck with that. Emergency doors don't open and close, the entire door lifts out of the frame.
My feelings exactly when I read about this incident. I'm picturing the usual message from flight crew that "we are making approach for landing everyone remain in your seat with seat belts fastened and secure all your loose belongings trays up etc..."
So, if I'm sitting first by the emergency exit row or near regular door and I see some idiot moving toward it and fiddling with it, I would be pulling them away (if door not released) to prevent, but if I was not close enough to notice or noticed to late I would be tempted to kick them out and close it (if possible) and go sit back down in my seat.
I'm guessing he was sitting in the emergency exit row. IDK though.
I don't understand why the other passengers just didn't push him out and shut the door again. I would've.
hehehehe. Pulling the door shut was probably not happening - but the rest - yeah - not sure how he didn't go out, either on his own or with a little help.
Asiana has stopped (at least for now) selling seats in the exit row - which kinda implies he was, indeed, in the exit row.
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