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Old 07-30-2018, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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What mistakes did the doula identify? Since the thread is about deaths, did the patient die?

I take it you never make mistakes? Where have I claimed doctors are perfect? Cite the post, please. I note that when you make accusations about what I believe and I ask you to show where I said what you claim I did you never answer, so I do not expect a reply this time, either.



Yeah.

Dr. Offit is a real thorn in the side for alt med, isn't he?
Offit has NO influence in my decisions, but maybe you could come up with some new Offits...
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Old 07-30-2018, 01:03 PM
 
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What mistakes did the doula identify? Since the thread is about deaths, did the patient die?

I take it you never make mistakes? Where have I claimed doctors are perfect? Cite the post, please. I note that when you make accusations about what I believe and I ask you to show where I said what you claim I did you never answer, so I do not expect a reply this time, either.
Where have you ever criticized the medical industry? Cite those posts please /eyeroll/. You post relentlessly in favor of big pharma and the medical industry day after day after day. I've asked people to post links where you have criticized the medical industry and not one link has ever appeared.

When I make mistakes I admit it. I don't pretend they didn't happen and/or hide behind a lawyer and/or patient-sponsored payout system (vaccine manufacturers). I also don't expect people to obey me. /shrug/

And I have posted positive posts re the medical system. Trauma care has been wonderful for saving lives. Antibiotics, also.

But you criticize? Never. All drugs are good for everyone. Doesn't matter what parents say, doesn't matter what personal experiences people have, they're just 100% wrong, because drugs are good, doctors are perfect and if someone dies, well, it's their own fault. They should've read the package insert that being killed was a possibilty.
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Old 07-30-2018, 01:13 PM
 
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Offit has NO influence in my decisions, but maybe you could come up with some new Offits...
I've never even heard of him/her.
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Old 07-30-2018, 01:15 PM
 
Location: planet earth
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I wish the liars could actually get penalized for publishing lies on this forum - or maybe electric shocks . . . something . . . as it is, the medical establishment promoters don't answer to anyone and get away with murder, much like some of the people they support.
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Old 07-30-2018, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Offit has NO influence in my decisions, but maybe you could come up with some new Offits...
Sure he doesn't. You would have to be receptive to some science for him to have any influence.

Some "new Offits":

https://theness.com/neurologicablog/...edicine-kills/

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/alt...ncer-patients/

The SkepDoc

From a former naturopath:

https://www.naturopathicdiaries.com/

From a chiropractor:

https://edzardernst.com/2012/10/a-ne...-medicine-why/
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Old 08-01-2018, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Hey who brought up Offit?

I think I read 3 books by (definitely 2) and I loved them. Easy reading, seemed pretty unbiased as he had bad to say about regular medicine, and alternative. He took the industry to task about opioids.
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Old 08-01-2018, 10:59 PM
 
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I wish the liars could actually get penalized for publishing lies on this forum - or maybe electric shocks . . . something . . . as it is, the medical establishment promoters don't answer to anyone and get away with murder, much like some of the people they support.
Totally agree...if that comes to pass you should start wearing rubber pants....
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Old 08-01-2018, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Where have you ever criticized the medical industry? Cite those posts please /eyeroll/. You post relentlessly in favor of big pharma and the medical industry day after day after day. I've asked people to post links where you have criticized the medical industry and not one link has ever appeared.

When I make mistakes I admit it. I don't pretend they didn't happen and/or hide behind a lawyer and/or patient-sponsored payout system (vaccine manufacturers). I also don't expect people to obey me. /shrug/

And I have posted positive posts re the medical system. Trauma care has been wonderful for saving lives. Antibiotics, also.

But you criticize? Never. All drugs are good for everyone. Doesn't matter what parents say, doesn't matter what personal experiences people have, they're just 100% wrong, because drugs are good, doctors are perfect and if someone dies, well, it's their own fault. They should've read the package insert that being killed was a possibilty.
What "mistakes" did the doula catch?

You cannot find any posts from me that say the things you have claimed I did, can you?

Antibiotics are drugs, and it is clear you have no concept of the number of potent drugs used in trauma care.

What parents say is important. That does not mean that their interpretation of the cause of events is the correct one.

Why should a vaccine manufacturer pay for an adverse event that was not caused by a defective vaccine?
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Old 08-01-2018, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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What "mistakes" did the doula catch?
My first thought was, my mother-in-law can find five "mistakes" minimum with everything, but those are not necessarily valid.
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Old 08-02-2018, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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my first thought was, my mother-in-law can find five "mistakes" minimum with everything, but those are not necessarily valid. :d
:d

Weird. The big grin smiley will not work.

Oh, well. Here's me, grinning!
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