Once again, modern Dallas is about to leave Houston behind (move, hear)

[Mister Nifty]

Originally Posted by Scarface713

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Looks fine to me.



You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Excuse me? Please reread the post. The Texas Medical Center is five miles from downtown Houston. Uptown Houston is six miles away. We are speaking quality urban as in the downtown area and the eight square miles that immediately surround it. The Southwester Medical Center is just three miles from downtown Dallas. Uptown Dallas already transitions smoothly into downtown Dallas and it is located between downtown Dallas and the Southwestern Medical Center. Massive amounts of infrastructure is going into revitalizing a portion of Oak Cliff towards the west by way of the Trinity River Park, new bridges and a trolly. As I said, the more numerous DART rail lines coming into and out of downtown Dallas will produce more TOD's lin the furture in the immediate nine square mile area of central Dallas than Metro's design will for central Houston.
The Katy trail has already become a classic which further enhances a long standing classic in the Turtle Creek area.

[Trae713]

Originally Posted by Mister Nifty

Excuse me? Please reread the post. The Texas Medical Center is five miles from downtown Houston. Uptown Houston is six miles away. We are speaking quality urban as in the downtown area and the eight square miles that immediately surround it. The Southwester Medical Center is just three miles from downtown Dallas. Uptown Dallas already transitions smoothly into downtown Dallas and it is located between downtown Dallas and the Southwestern Medical Center. Massive amounts of infrastructure is going into revitalizing a portion of Oak Cliff towards the west by way of the Trinity River Park, new bridges and a trolly. As I said, the more numerous DART rail lines coming into and out of downtown Dallas will produce more TOD's lin the furture in the immediate nine square mile area of central Dallas than Metro's design will for central Houston.
The Katy trail has already become a classic which further enhances a long standing classic in the Turtle Creek area.

And? You have Midtown just across the freeway in Houston. The eastern side of the Downtown area where the Dynamo Stadium will be built (just across US 59) with two light rail lines intersection there. The Hardy Rail Yards development just north of I-10, near where the Intermodal Station will be built. Then, projects like Regent Square just to the west of Downtown. Like I said, you really have no idea what you're talking about here.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Whats the difference between living in Dallas vs. Houston? Really, not much. Both have things going for them and things they could improve on.

[Ouch!]

Mister Nifty you should really visit Houston and Dallas sometime. Reading one of your post is like reading a book about how to win football games by Wade Phillips.

YOU ARE NOT A CREDIBLE SOURCE. Crawl back in your loser hole you brain dead idiot.

[codytravers]

Downtown/Midtown/Uptown Houston is fail if you actually want to walk anywhere.

[eepstein]

I think it's safe to say that both cities have massive populations and some of the worst gridlock and traffic in the nation. Both cities are equally to blame for massive continous sprawl based on cheap gas. Yes, Dallas does have a more extensive light rail system than Houston, but does it really matter? Regardless of which city has an efficient light rail system, both share the same sort of problems. Building a light rail system is POINTLESS if you continue to sprawl out in all directions with no growth restrictions whatsoever.

Both Dallas and Houston are built solely for the automobile. As long as cheap gas, and cheap (far out) housing remain, both cities will continue to have massive traffic and gridlock issues.

Originally Posted by codytravers

Downtown/Midtown/Uptown Houston is fail if you actually want to walk anywhere.

[Mister Nifty]

Originally Posted by Ouch!

Mister Nifty you should really visit Houston and Dallas sometime. Reading one of your post is like reading a book about how to win football games by Wade Phillips.

YOU ARE NOT A CREDIBLE SOURCE. Crawl back in your loser hole you brain dead idiot.

The four medical centers surrounding downtown Dallas are all in close proximity to it with these being Southwestern to the northwest (2 miles), Baylor to the east (quarter of a mile), [SIZE=4]Texas Scottish Rite Hospital for Children[/SIZE] to the north (half a mile), and the Methodist to the west across the Trinity (about a half mile away).
In comparison, the Texas Medical Center is located 4.5 miles away from Houston.
If Houston used the theory that the city of Dallas has long deployed, it would ask itself what it can do to better smooth the transitions between it three major urban centers of downtown Houston, Uptown, and the Texas Medical Center.
There is no direct connection between Uptown Houston and The Texas Medical Center. However, Montrose does serve this purpose indirectly to a certain extent as it has the potential to be transformed into a major boulevard while it crosses over by way of a suspension bridge a submerged portion ot the Southwest Freeway, as a series of suspension bridges exist nearby it transitioning this particlar neighborhood together giving this particular area a lot of potential on the level of what the city of Dallas tends to like to do.
When Motrose arrives at the area of Richmond and Westheimer, it will need another major boulevarde headed westward towards Uptown to further completing the indirect connection between the Texas Medical Center to Uptown Houston.
The above example is how the city of Dallas tends to think while Houston, the largest city without zoning, rarely thinks in this manner.
Please, if you are going to call me an idiot, then at least put some effort into it.

[Mister Nifty]

Originally Posted by eepstein

I think it's safe to say that both cities have massive populations and some of the worst gridlock and traffic in the nation. Both cities are equally to blame for massive continous sprawl based on cheap gas. Yes, Dallas does have a more extensive light rail system than Houston, but does it really matter? Regardless of which city has an efficient light rail system, both share the same sort of problems. Building a light rail system is POINTLESS if you continue to sprawl out in all directions with no growth restrictions whatsoever.

Both Dallas and Houston are built solely for the automobile. As long as cheap gas, and cheap (far out) housing remain, both cities will continue to have massive traffic and gridlock issues.

Once again, how can the Dallas - Fort Worth area have sprawl when it has long had a kazillion cities controlling its growth? In comparison, the Houston area has little zoning while it also has a lot of unincorporated areas. Just look at each metropolitan area on a google map and it is easy to see where the business centers, the commercial shopping districts, and the distribution areas are located in Dallas - Fort Worth. When looking at the Houston area, because it lacks zoning or is unincorporated, such areas are not so apparent. In other words, don't just respond, but actually look through a satellite at the proof.

[Mister Nifty]

Originally Posted by codytravers

Downtown/Midtown/Uptown Houston is fail if you actually want to walk anywhere.

As the Houston area has never felt burdened to connect each area, it has a lot of transitional problems. It is the city of Dallas that is exposing those problems in Houston. That is why I made the argument that, in the state of Texas, it is the modern city in the forefront. The city of Dallas has long understood the vanity in revitalizing its downtown without taking the trouble to transition such an area into the eight square miles surrounding it.
In comparison, downtown Houston is almost completely cut off from the eight square miles surrounding it.

[Mister Nifty]

Originally Posted by Scarface713

And? You have Midtown just across the freeway in Houston. The eastern side of the Downtown area where the Dynamo Stadium will be built (just across US 59) with two light rail lines intersection there. The Hardy Rail Yards development just north of I-10, near where the Intermodal Station will be built. Then, projects like Regent Square just to the west of Downtown. Like I said, you really have no idea what you're talking about here.

If a massive earthquake happened in downtown Houston, the the area would be almost shut off completely as the elevated freeways came crumbling down. These elevated freeways are a problem that Houston has long ignored.