02-22-2011, 01:24 PM
Location: Orange County, CA
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Sooo....if any of you have been following my research and/or posts, you all (can't bring myself to ya'll yet...haha!) know that we are looking at Rockwall, and you also know my husband thinks he wants land. IF we were to get a house with some "land", and there were horse facilities on site (such as a small stable and pen), would we be able to rent that out to someone with horses?
While we *like* horses...we aren't getting any in the near future (or ever, probably!). It would be such a waste to have that and not use it, especially if we could make money off it! haha!
Anyone know the following: a) its that legal (hey, could be something that says you can't do it if its not a dedicated facility?), b) would people in the area be interested in that at all, or would anyone with interest have that for themselves on their own land?
If found a REALLY cute and classic house for only $279k on 3 acres with a 2,400 sq. ft. workshop (whatever that means?) and horse stables/pen off of "farm to market road 549" (? such a peculiar street name). From Realtor.com:
5904 S Fm 549 Rockwall TX - Real Estate for Sale and Homes for Sale - MLS #11512217 - Realtor.com®
Just throwing it out there. Very curious.
02-22-2011, 01:34 PM
Location: The Big D
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FM or Farm to Market are small county highways. Most are only 2 lane blacktops while some have widened to 4 lanes in more heavily traveled areas. So this particular property is going to be on a main road and not in a subdivision. Other FM roads in Rockwall are 205, 276, 551, 548, etc.
02-22-2011, 01:42 PM
Location: Orange County, CA
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Yes, I saw on the map it looked like the country/not a subdivision. I also noticed it was Heath HS. Just something to throw out there, I suppose...in the event that my DH wants "land" over "new". haha! Are these roads heavily traveled?
02-22-2011, 02:11 PM
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momof2dfw
FM or Farm to Market are small county highways. Most are only 2 lane blacktops while some have widened to 4 lanes in more heavily traveled areas. So this particular property is going to be on a main road and not in a subdivision. Other FM roads in Rockwall are 205, 276, 551, 548, etc.
FM roads were the routes farmers took to sell their produce at the market. Hence, farm to market.
To answer your questions, you would need to know if that land is zoned for argriculture. If it's not, no horses. And you would also need to know if the land is zoned for commercial and residential. If it's not zoned commercial, no horse stall rental business.
02-22-2011, 03:21 PM
Location: Orange County, CA
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Gottcha...it is zoned for horses....it says to bring them! haha! And it has a stable/pen. Not sure about the commercial. But good to know. I would just assume its a home-based biz, but I suppose not. See- that's the thing I needed to know! =)
02-22-2011, 07:23 PM
Location: Kaufman County, Texas
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The general rule of thumb with horses and land in North Texas is that you need 1.5 acres per horse. Anything less than that and they will churn the pasture into mud when we get the spring rains. Looking at the photos of the property, the current owners currently have too many horses on it, and there is hardly any grass is the pasture. When it starts raining in April, that pasture is going to become a sea of mud. That's a pretty basic barn, and it honestly doesn't look like it has any features that a boarder would like, such as an arena, riding trails, tack storage, wash rack, etc. I wouldn't buy that property to keep my own horses on, and I seriously doubt you will find anyone to lease it. Even if you do, you may only get $250 a month (because they can only keep 2 horses on it) and the pasture will continue to be a sea of mud... There will also be repairs needed to the fence and barn, etc. Another question to think of: do you want strangers out on your property messing with their horses all the time? Horses have to be fed daily, and most working people do this really early in the morning before they go to work, or late in the evening when they get home...
02-22-2011, 09:52 PM
Location: Orange County, CA
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Very good info! I don't know anything about horses- so everything you said is very good to know! And, I don't really think I would mind strangers coming to take care of their animals. As long as they don't have to come in my house! haha! A town called "Poetry"...that's great! I think I'll let my DH get this "land" thing out of his system and at least check out places with land. He's a city boy...and I think it just appeals to his rustic side. I can't take that away from him. I'll let him do it for himself. ha! Going to check out Poetry right now...
02-23-2011, 04:54 AM
Location: Kaufman County, Texas
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Poetry is awesome! My parents have lived there since 1993. it's very peaceful and quiet, and for the most part, the homes are kept up really nicely. If you could wait 3 months, my parents' home will be for sale because they are downsizing and moving back into town. But they aren't quite finished with the house updates and cleaning out the attic, etc.
02-23-2011, 08:55 AM
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be very careful and look at the yearly taxes before you purchase.
02-23-2011, 09:00 AM
Location: The Big D
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While Poetry is nice that would be a HORRIBLE commute for your husband to get to/from work and it would not work at all for your home based business.
Here is what you can do and it would not be right away unless you have some extra change sitting around
After you get here and get settled into your full time home is go out and look at land or a lakehouse. You would be surprised at how many people around here have or their family has a farm/ranch, land in the country (even a small parcel on an acre) or a lakehouse. It is actually pretty popular and people spend long weekends out at their other place or a week or so in the summer. Get to know all of your neighbors and coworkers real well and he might get ya'll all invited to go out and spend some time at one of their places to get an idea of what it's all about.
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Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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After you get here and get settled into your full time home is go out and look at land or a lakehouse. You would be surprised at how many people around here have or their family has a farm/ranch, land in the country (even a small parcel on an acre) or a lakehouse. It is actually pretty popular and people spend long weekends out at their other place or a week or so in the summer. Get to know all of your neighbors and coworkers real well and he might get ya'll all invited to go out and spend some time at one of their places to get an idea of what it's all about.
