03-07-2011, 06:10 AM
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Have they really? I have only been there a couple of times and that was years ago. What closed? Is it turning into another Southlake?
Last time I was up there it looked like it was on its way to become another Town East Mall.
03-07-2011, 07:11 AM
Location: Forney Texas
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Not necessarily true. I lived in a home built in 1983 and my electric bill was about $280 a month in the summer and I keep it at 78 degrees. Depends on how efficient the A/C system is and what kind of insulation/windows you have. An older home can be made very efficient
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03-07-2011, 07:52 AM
Location: North Texas
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Last time I was up there it looked like it was on its way to become another Town East Mall.
Yikes...I guess Frisco isn't as upwardly mobile as previously thought.
03-07-2011, 08:02 AM
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Weird how this thread turned from homes in McKinney or Allen to shopping centers in Dallas.
03-07-2011, 09:28 AM
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Not necessarily true. I lived in a home built in 1983 and my electric bill was about $280 a month in the summer and I keep it at 78 degrees. Depends on how efficient the A/C system is and what kind of insulation/windows you have. An older home can be made very efficient
If it has been redone, most havent so it would be very important to check that before buying. AC's from the mid 90's or before are not efficent at all. Windows are much more efficent now then they used to be. You have to take this into consideration when buying a older home. You will have to deal with higher electric bills or spend a fair amount of money to update.
03-07-2011, 10:01 AM
Location: Plano
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Honestly, Allen is not worth considering unless you want a new cookie cutter house at cheap price and living style or resale value are non issues.
03-07-2011, 10:09 AM
Location: Mckinney
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Honestly, Allen is not worth considering unless you want a new cookie cutter house at cheap price and living style or resale value are non issues.
Versus what? A really old home with supposed charm. Really? One that you have to dump money into.
An acutally Allen has good resale. Thats a fact. It has limited land left to build on which pushes up property values just like Plano. Hmm. Plano is your screen name. Wow.
03-07-2011, 10:27 AM
Location: The Big D
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If it has been redone, most havent so it would be very important to check that before buying. AC's from the mid 90's or before are not efficent at all. Windows are much more efficent now then they used to be. You have to take this into consideration when buying a older home. You will have to deal with higher electric bills or spend a fair amount of money to update.
However, don't forget the costs associated for living in the new home that could be much futher from ones job. Higher gas prices, higher milage on ones car which lowers the value of it, higher risk of being in an accident due to more time/miles on the road, more maintenance to do on ones vehicle (more frequent oil changes, tires, etc), tolls if one has to use a tollroad in their longer commute, etc. Less time w/ family should also be taken into account as that is something one can never get back.
This is of course relative IF the new house w/ the more efficient A/C and windows is a good distance further from the persons job than the older house.
03-07-2011, 10:33 AM
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Versus what? A really old home with supposed charm. Really? One that you have to dump money into.
Um, I've owned TWO brand new homes and had to "dump money" into them as well. Things like window coverings, lawns, flowerbeds, etc. Bought my 3rd home pre-existing and it had more landscaping than I'd ever dreamof doing and I LOOOOOOOVE IT! All the wooden shutters already installed and good for me that the rooms w/ the very nice custom drapes happened to be our style and matched our furniture as well
. Saved me a TON of money in the long run. Purchasing a new home does not prevent one from having things to dump money into it. New homes can have issues as well. If one buys a house are recommends someone buy a new house based on it needing "less" money....... one is only fooling themselves. There is a lot more to consider than just the age of a house.
03-07-2011, 11:31 AM
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Um, I've owned TWO brand new homes and had to "dump money" into them as well. Things like window coverings, lawns, flowerbeds, etc. Bought my 3rd home pre-existing and it had more landscaping than I'd ever dreamof doing and I LOOOOOOOVE IT! All the wooden shutters already installed and good for me that the rooms w/ the very nice custom drapes happened to be our style and matched our furniture as well
. Saved me a TON of money in the long run. Purchasing a new home does not prevent one from having things to dump money into it. New homes can have issues as well. If one buys a house are recommends someone buy a new house based on it needing "less" money....... one is only fooling themselves. There is a lot more to consider than just the age of a house.
All things equal, a new home will have much less issues then a much older home. Thats just a fact. I have owned both. I am getting ready to sell my home that was built in 93. I have been in it 5 years, and there is alot more to be done then when I sold my new home right before I moved in to this.
Unless I am planning to totally redo a older home( say anything built before the late 90's), I will never buy an older home again. Too many issues to deal with. Its just not as easy and fun. I work alot and I prefer not to work at home. I think we might actually start town home living. I like everything be taken care of for me.
This is just me, but I still say cost are much lest on a newer home personally .
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Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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