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Old 03-11-2011, 09:39 PM
 
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I don't understand what people have against Bill White. People who say he destroyed Houston or made it worse are absolutely ignorant and know nothing about Houston.



I'm a frequent reader of the Houston chronicle. They have a comments section that leans quite right. Even the readers are turning on Perry. It's no longer a right/left issue with him. Quite simply, he's an incompotent boob.



What does Ann Richards have to do with Perry's incompetence?
I. Some of the reasons Bill White had no chance for my vote:
1. He's clearly and serially anti-second amendment rights
2. He supports "cap and trade" schemes
3. He helped make Houston one of the largest sanctuary cities in the US.

II. Conservatives have hated Perry for many years.

III. What makes you think Perry is incompetent?
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Old 03-11-2011, 09:43 PM
 
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Bill White committed the unpardonable sin of treating the Katrina refugees (most of them black and poor) with compassion and dignity--
that is why he was treated with such distain and comments about how he had ruined Houston...
at least in MY opinion...


The only connection between Ann Richards and Rick Perry is their (signature) great hair...
Governor Richards was a class act even when she was being herself...
Rick Perry has no class...and not just because he is an Aggie grad--I rank most of them way higher than I do Perry...
and I think classifying Perry as "incompetent" is too generous--it implies that he has no capabilities--yet he was very successful in his role as Ag Commissioner--
HE can do a better job for Texas--he has just abrogated that responsibility to do a better job for Rick Perry as a Republican candidate for higher office...
He is another perfect example of how being elected to office gives someone with little moral strength and less nobless oblige the opening to take advantage of unethical opportunity galore and pandering to the masses to achieve personal goals vs achieve something true and difficult...
It is not that he is incapable--it is that he choose to use his talents and intelligence in a very narrow focus attuned to what benefits Rick Perry--not Texas--no matter what he claims to the contrary...
More Texans will be in the worst shape of their lives after he leaves office than any other Texas governor -- Bush was prevented from being as bad as Perry because of Bob Bullock's tempering hand, political knowledge, and professional spirit--
Perry has no one like that in the Legislature and he would not listen if he did...
Ah. You view Bob Bullock as a proper leader, that explains everything.
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Old 03-11-2011, 09:46 PM
 
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I never got this criticism.

What exactly was Bill White supposed to do?

Those people were going to go somewhere anyways.

Plus Rick Perry himself also invited them.
It's a dodge. No one with a functioning brain stem blames White for helping Katrina evacuees.
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Old 03-12-2011, 06:37 AM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Bill White committed the unpardonable sin of treating the Katrina refugees (most of them black and poor) with compassion and dignity--
that is why he was treated with such distain and comments about how he had ruined Houston...
at least in MY opinion...


The only connection between Ann Richards and Rick Perry is their (signature) great hair...
Governor Richards was a class act even when she was being herself...
Rick Perry has no class...and not just because he is an Aggie grad--I rank most of them way higher than I do Perry...
and I think classifying Perry as "incompetent" is too generous--it implies that he has no capabilities--yet he was very successful in his role as Ag Commissioner--
HE can do a better job for Texas--he has just abrogated that responsibility to do a better job for Rick Perry as a Republican candidate for higher office...
He is another perfect example of how being elected to office gives someone with little moral strength and less nobless oblige the opening to take advantage of unethical opportunity galore and pandering to the masses to achieve personal goals vs achieve something true and difficult...
It is not that he is incapable--it is that he choose to use his talents and intelligence in a very narrow focus attuned to what benefits Rick Perry--not Texas--no matter what he claims to the contrary...
More Texans will be in the worst shape of their lives after he leaves office than any other Texas governor -- Bush was prevented from being as bad as Perry because of Bob Bullock's tempering hand, political knowledge, and professional spirit--
Perry has no one like that in the Legislature and he would not listen if he did...
how were they refugees when they were US Citizens? Anyway, inviting those from New Orleans over was one of the better things White has done. Peple say Houston had a spike in rike, but the vast majority of that were people from New Orleans fighting each other. There are still many in Houston today living normal lives. Bill White was the better candidate. Perry had his chances and failed for Texas. If the vote was today, White would win, IMO. The anti-Democrat trend was too strong back then.
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Old 03-12-2011, 08:21 AM
 
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Bob Bullock understood how to reach a CONSENSUS of opinion and gave fair-hearing to people from variety of viewpoints
He adopted "equal opportunity employment", was very effective in his job as state comptroller and generated tax income for the state and created the Texas Performance Review and Taxpayers' Bill of Rights among other legislation. His efforts regarding adding an income tax to TX tax code made it a matter of a Constitutional amendment process AND tied the proceeds to funding education--so it can't be hijacked for other needs--like subsidizing business taxes...
Bullock was head and shoulders a better Comptroller than John Sharp and and a terrific Lieutenant Governor--better than Perry in that job-- would have been/should have been Governor in his own right--
but he understood that in TX the constitution ranks governor more as figurehead politician than actually legislator--
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Old 03-12-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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Bob Bullock understood how to reach a CONSENSUS of opinion and gave fair-hearing to people from variety of viewpoints
He adopted "equal opportunity employment", was very effective in his job as state comptroller and generated tax income for the state and created the Texas Performance Review and Taxpayers' Bill of Rights among other legislation. His efforts regarding adding an income tax to TX tax code made it a matter of a Constitutional amendment process AND tied the proceeds to funding education--so it can't be hijacked for other needs--like subsidizing business taxes...
Bullock was head and shoulders a better Comptroller than John Sharp and and a terrific Lieutenant Governor--better than Perry in that job-- would have been/should have been Governor in his own right--
but he understood that in TX the constitution ranks governor more as figurehead politician than actually legislator--

Everyone who pays any attention knows that the Lt. Gov. is more powerful in a technical sense than the governor.

As you mentioned Bullock worked tirelessly to foist a state income tax on Texans. As it became clear his position was a political loser during his next election campaign he ran adds that made it seem he had been against a state income tax all along. I know it's bad when republicans do that sort of thing but 100% fine when liberals do the same.
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Old 03-13-2011, 11:32 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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II. Conservatives have hated Perry for many years.

III. What makes you think Perry is incompetent?
II. Intelligent conservatives can actually see Perry for who he is, all politician. On the other hand, the rest of the conservatives just see a (R) next to his name and paint of picture of Perry with his good hair cut soaring majestically with Jesus through clouds of Texas and US flags.

III. Perry isn't incompetent, worse all he cares about is his career and cronyism.
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Old 03-13-2011, 11:36 AM
 
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When do we know if he will change his decission and our teachers will be "safe"? I watched local news yesterday but did not see any mention. Can someone give me an update?


BTW - Rick Perry It is Raining in Texas!

Office of the Governor - Rick Perry - Contact
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Old 03-13-2011, 11:47 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Everyone who pays any attention knows that the Lt. Gov. is more powerful in a technical sense than the governor.
Perry still has the power of the bully pulpit. And much like the President, the governor has limited power, while the majority people always equate figureheads with running the show.

However, Perry could actually have a discussion and make the hard decisions to set Texas up to succeed for the future. But like most Republicans, he seems more interested in maintaining this populist conservative notion of "we need to slash spending, deficits are bad". However, this country and state is going to be in a rude awakening as people are starting to realize the consequences of these actions.

Texas is low cost, low regulation, business friendly, spends among the lowest $/person state yet here we are faced with a budget crisis. Regardless of your political alignment and views on immigration, Texas is changing. We can accept reality and do something about it and get Perry out of office or watch as inaction and populism take over. Do you believe Texas can maintain it's quality of life and economic clout when it's ranking in education, healthcare, and environmental issues are near the bottom? Not to mention the system of freight track, ports, highways, roads, bridges, water treatment plans, etc. (the infrastructure that makes Texas what it is) is aging and our population is exploding. Mr. Perry what are we to do?
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Old 03-13-2011, 12:16 PM
 
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Perry still has the power of the bully pulpit. And much like the President, the governor has limited power, while the majority people always equate figureheads with running the show.

However, Perry could actually have a discussion and make the hard decisions to set Texas up to succeed for the future. But like most Republicans, he seems more interested in maintaining this populist conservative notion of "we need to slash spending, deficits are bad". However, this country and state is going to be in a rude awakening as people are starting to realize the consequences of these actions.

Texas is low cost, low regulation, business friendly, spends among the lowest $/person state yet here we are faced with a budget crisis. Regardless of your political alignment and views on immigration, Texas is changing. We can accept reality and do something about it and get Perry out of office or watch as inaction and populism take over. Do you believe Texas can maintain it's quality of life and economic clout when it's ranking in education, healthcare, and environmental issues are near the bottom? Not to mention the system of freight track, ports, highways, roads, bridges, water treatment plans, etc. (the infrastructure that makes Texas what it is) is aging and our population is exploding. Mr. Perry what are we to do?

Very well said. Ever consider running for office?
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