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Old 06-24-2011, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Yankee loves Dallas
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Although, the New York Times recently assembled a good deal of anecdotal evidence that Beverly Hills has been declining by comparison with Bel Air, Brentwood, and Pacific Palisades, so that might change the equation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/29/fa...elite-but.html
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Old 06-24-2011, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Simmering in DFW
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There's no place in Dallas that resembles BH.

The Park Cities are very average and very typical of any in town upscale neighborhood you'll find in St. Louis, Chicago or Omaha. You may read statements about the safety of living there and the throwback times of children having the freedom to roam openly throughout the neighborhoods. Not, not, not true!!! Total BS. The families I know who have lived in the Park Cities have been disappointed in the social pressures in the schools and have ALL either moved away or enrolled their children in private schools. They have found their children need to be monitored and supervised just as they were when living in any other neighborhoods. The Park Cities are no better and no worse than any other neighborhood with homes in the same price ranges....be it Plano, Southlake, Las Colinas, Allen, Coppell or Flower Mound. If you can afford it, use private schools. If it makes sense to live close to the city....live in the Park Cities. There is no perfect place and there are many great places to live in the DFW area. There is nothing like Beverly Hills here.

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Old 06-24-2011, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Knox - Henderson
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There's no place in Dallas that resembles BH. People who live in the Park Cities like to believe it is. But the Park Cities are very average and very typical. You may read statements about the safety of living there and the throwback times of children having the freedom to roam openly throughout the neighborhoods. Not, not, not true!!! Total BS.
You sound like a disgruntled transplant who doesn't know what he's tallking about. The comparison between HP and BH is valid regardless of what you think. The Streets from Beverly Drive down to Armstrong do resemble Beverly Hills. Makes sense because they were laid out by the same urban planner about 100 years ago. The big difference is that BH has palm trees and HP does not. The quality of the housing is very similar.
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Old 06-24-2011, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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There are parts of Beverly Hills that definitely remind me of Uptown. In fact, the first time I went, that was my first thought.
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Old 06-24-2011, 02:01 PM
 
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There's no place in Dallas that resembles BH.

The Park Cities are very average and very typical of any in town upscale neighborhood you'll find in St. Louis, Chicago or Omaha. You may read statements about the safety of living there and the throwback times of children having the freedom to roam openly throughout the neighborhoods. Not, not, not true!!! Total BS. The families I know who have lived in the Park Cities have been disappointed in the social pressures in the schools and have ALL either moved away or enrolled their children in private schools. They have found their children need to be monitored and supervised just as they were when living in any other neighborhoods. The Park Cities are no better and no worse than any other neighborhood with homes in the same price ranges....be it Plano, Southlake, Las Colinas, Allen, Coppell or Flower Mound. If you can afford it, use private schools. If it makes sense to live close to the city....live in the Park Cities. There is no perfect place and there are many great places to live in the DFW area. There is nothing like Beverly Hills here.
Sounds like a disgruntled California expat who moved to Coppell and has friends who couldn't cut it in the elite public schools in the Park Cities. Or somebody who hasn't been to Beverly Hills recently.

Besides Rodeo Drive and a few other residential streets, Beverly Hills isn't all that special. In fact, there are blocks in Highland Park that are much nicer than many Beverly Hills blocks. (Although BH definitely has some gorgeous mansions).

There are a lot more houses in Beverly Hills that look like this:


than this:


If you want to compare mansions in Dallas vs. Los Angeles/Beverly Hills, then Preston Hollow or Bluffview is the right area to compare in DFW.

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Old 06-24-2011, 02:20 PM
 
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There's no place in Dallas that resembles BH.

The Park Cities are very average and very typical of any in town upscale neighborhood you'll find in St. Louis, Chicago or Omaha. You may read statements about the safety of living there and the throwback times of children having the freedom to roam openly throughout the neighborhoods. Not, not, not true!!! Total BS. The families I know who have lived in the Park Cities have been disappointed in the social pressures in the schools and have ALL either moved away or enrolled their children in private schools. They have found their children need to be monitored and supervised just as they were when living in any other neighborhoods. The Park Cities are no better and no worse than any other neighborhood with homes in the same price ranges....be it Plano, Southlake, Las Colinas, Allen, Coppell or Flower Mound. If you can afford it, use private schools. If it makes sense to live close to the city....live in the Park Cities. There is no perfect place and there are many great places to live in the DFW area. There is nothing like Beverly Hills here.
You're romanticizing BH too much. Park Cities has its own unique pressures, but it's not the same as Plano or Coppell. That comparison is absurd. Plus, the only people I know that drop out of HPISD are students who are close to flunking out or have behavioral problems in HPISD.
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Old 06-24-2011, 02:23 PM
 
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You sound like a disgruntled transplant who doesn't know what he's tallking about. The comparison between HP and BH is valid regardless of what you think. The Streets from Beverly Drive down to Armstrong do resemble Beverly Hills. Makes sense because they were laid out by the same urban planner about 100 years ago. The big difference is that BH has palm trees and HP does not. The quality of the housing is very similar.

My thoughts exactly! Sorry Squirl's friend couldn't cut it in the Park Cities. My childhood friends who live there now with their young families DO let their kids roam and play freely. It's the way of life in the Park Cities.

The Park Cities is not "very average" at all. It consistently- for 50+ years- is on the list of the top 10 wealthiest neighborhoods in the country. Right up there with Greenwich, CT; Scarsdale, NYC; Pacific Heights in San Fran. Beverly Hills isn't even on the list- think Brentwood is the LA neighborhood that continues to make the list. Beverly Hills has some really nice neighborhoods, but also a ton of apartments, a lower than perceived median income, and mediocre public schools.

Southlake, Allen, Coppell, Las Colinas (haha! Nice try) are the "anytown USA" suburbs that are replicated outside every major city. There are no homes by world class architects in Coppell, Plano, Allen, etc.
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Old 06-24-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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Here's the Robb Report list of ten most affluent communities. Please note, BH didn't make the cut.

1.* Rancho Santa Fe, California
2.* Greenwich, Connecticut
3.* Palm Beach, Florida
4.* Aspen, Colorado
5.* Upper West Side, Manhattan
6.* Pacific Heights, San Francisco
7.* The Grosse Pointes, Michigan
8.& 9. (tie) Park City, Utah &
**** The Park Cities, Dallas, Texas
10. Waimea, Hawaii
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Old 06-24-2011, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Broomfield, CO
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Well im not sure i'd go that far. Uptown Dallas could certainly be compared to uptown Houston or Buckhead in Atlanta, but to Beverly Hills? Don't think so. Not sure how many people on this board have actually been to beverly hills, but it's about as plastic and fake as you can get. It is often frequented by movie stars, singers, and other famous people on TV. Some of the outfits people are wearing would BLOW YOUR MIND. It's truly a unique place unlike any other i've ever experienced.

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I heard that Uptown Dallas is the "Beverly Hills of Dallas?" Why?
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Old 06-24-2011, 02:46 PM
 
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Some of the outfits people are wearing would BLOW YOUR MIND. It's truly a unique place unlike any other i've ever experienced.
And clearly you've never been to any charity luncheon at Dallas' Brook Hollow Country Club (home of the really old moneyed Park Cities set, moreso than the DCC) and seen the parade of women wearing Chanel Couture (real couture, not the rtw "couture", Oscar, Carolina Herrera, Akris, Louis Vuitton and Gucci (runway, not logo crap), Prada, etc.

The Neiman Marcus at NorthPark in Dallas does more business than the NM in Beverly Hills. Wrap your brain around that. The Chanel store in Highland Park Village grosses more than Chanel BH.

True, these ladies aren't in Uptown. They're in the Park Cities. And they'd be equally at home in BH- if they don't have second homes there or in Santa Barbara or Newport Beach already.
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