No more Texas Projection Measure - or a better title - Is your school really exemplary? (Dallas: middle schools, education)

[FarNorthDallas]

Originally Posted by Macbeth2003

Which is how it should be measured. None of this dividing into subgroups to get the calculation either. Perhaps subdivided by English proficiency but that is it. It should be X percentage of the students. Not X percentage of the students with Y racial background and Q percentage of the Students with R racial background, etc etc.

I mean that data should be collected, and publicly available, but should not be part of the ranking process. - If we have to have these tests in the first place which is a whole different question.

Yes! The subgrouping has really divided the schools internally. For instance at our neighborhood public high school tutoring - such as Saturday School - is only open to Hispanics.

[Exult.Q36]

Originally Posted by FarNorthDallas

Yes! The subgrouping has really divided the schools internally. For instance at our neighborhood public high school tutoring - such as Saturday School - is only open to Hispanics.

I have no problem with that...The goal is to get students ready for the test. If you have to single out certain groups for more tutoring because of low performance than do it. These teachers’ jobs are at stake if they don't raise performance levels. The biggest problem I have is schools are designed to pass test in inner city school district. It doesn't prepare the above average student for college. When I went off to college I was vastly unprepared. Lucky for me I had the will and fortitude to learn quickly. The High school I went to basically divide the school up into three categories SIP, AVID and Greater. SIP and AVID the above average students took classes together and greater Fort Worth consisted of students that where considered high risk. SIP (highly competitive) students where ranked by themselves for class ranking. AVID students, however, were ranked with Greater Fort Worth students; Reason being to boost numbers and credibility.

[FarNorthDallas]

Originally Posted by kdogg817

I have no problem with that...The goal is to get students ready for the test.

So it's okay for the school to only tutor Hispanics? What if a white child would benefit from tutoring in order to get ready for the test?

[expatChicagoan]

Is there something similar for Ft Worth area schools?

[pepper131]

Originally Posted by FarNorthDallas

So it's okay for the school to only tutor Hispanics? What if a white child would benefit from tutoring in order to get ready for the test?

At my son's elem school, tutoring is avail for everyone who needs it. But since the majority of the school is Hispanic (maybe 80%), they make up the bulk of the tutoring population.

[FarNorthDallas]

Originally Posted by pepper131

At my son's elem school, tutoring is avail for everyone who needs it. But since the majority of the school is Hispanic (maybe 80%), they make up the bulk of the tutoring population.

At our area high school tutoring is only open to Hispanics. Tutoring is not open to white students.

[BigDGeek]

Originally Posted by FarNorthDallas

So it's okay for the school to only tutor Hispanics? What if a white child would benefit from tutoring in order to get ready for the test?

Originally Posted by FarNorthDallas

At our area high school tutoring is only open to Hispanics. Tutoring is not open to white students.

I don't even have kids and I want to sue over that. It's outrageous.

[pepper131]

Originally Posted by FarNorthDallas

At our area high school tutoring is only open to Hispanics. Tutoring is not open to white students.

I forget where your kids are - is it public or private?
Seems very unfair to cater to one group who needs help when all students should have the opportunity to get help.
I wonder if there was a specific grant or some other funding for tutoring that specifies that only Hispanic students get the tutoring at your school.

[Exult.Q36]

Originally Posted by FarNorthDallas

So it's okay for the school to only tutor Hispanics? What if a white child would benefit from tutoring in order to get ready for the test?

No school should deny any student tutoring regardless of race; but it shouldn't be mandatory for the low risk student IMO. But I do understand white and black parents in the DISD have complained that Hispanic students are being catered to in the district; if that is true than I do see that as a huge issue. I am not fond of the Dallas superintendent to begin with because he wanted all principals in the DISD to learn Spanish or be fired; he loss all credibility with me pretty much after that.

[racehorse]

I suspect there is more to this story. It may be that the white kids are all passing the TAKS, so they don't get extra tutoring.

My son's old school had speech therapy available to ESL kids. If you didn't know the whole story, you would think speech therapy was only available to Hispanic kids.