09-23-2007, 07:52 AM
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Now, you can find areas that have some trees and manmade lakes, but they are few and far between. I think people should get an answer to their question, not a defensive retort by natives.
few-and-far between lakes?? Have you seen a map of DFW? There are six MASSIVE lakes (like Lake Dallas, Lake Lavon, Lake Ray Hubbard, Joe Pool....) and countless smaller ones.
Hundreds (!!) of miles of lakefront.
Some trees? LOL. There are vast areas that are essentially a forest. Sure, I am not talking about Frisco and the northern Plains. But drive around in Bluff View, Preston Hollow, Lake Highlands, Lakewood, Oak Cliff, The Park Cities etc.
BTW, I am not a native Texan. I am not even a US citizen. I don't have a TX patriotic motive at all. I just find it funny, if people write total BS, like Dallas is a brown wasteland. Because it is just not true.
09-23-2007, 09:20 AM
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few-and-far between lakes?? Have you seen a map of DFW? There are six MASSIVE lakes (like Lake Dallas, Lake Lavon, Lake Ray Hubbard, Joe Pool....) and countless smaller ones.
I guess it depends on what you are using for a comparison. All of the trees in the areas mentioned were planted when the homes were built, so at one point, it was fairly barren. At some point, Frisco will have large trees as well, but like quite a few of females in DFW, it will not be natural, just enhanced.
FWIW, my wife lived most of her life in Dallas. She also thinks that the topography is barren, boring, bland, lifeless etc....
Best for the folks looking to move to DFW to spend time where they are planning on living to get a better feel.
There will always be the lure of inexpensive housing but reality sets in fairly quickly
09-23-2007, 01:09 PM
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Who cares if they were planted? What's your point? Trees are trees. Also, the Trinity forest was not planted. Where did your wife live? Plano?
09-23-2007, 01:26 PM
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There are six MASSIVE lakes (like Lake Dallas, Lake Lavon, Lake Ray Hubbard, Joe Pool....) and countless smaller ones.
Who cares if there are million miles of lakefront in Dallas, when there are no walkways for the people, where they can go to waterfront, sit in a cafe, sip their coffees or teas while enjoying a nice cookie and watching the water having a nice conversation with one another.
Who cares if there are miles and miles of lakes when all the lakefront is occupied by the houses, not the citizens who paid for those lakes to be built and keep paying for those lakes to be maintained.
Compare the lakefront of Toronto, Montreal, Chicago etc to the lakefronts of DFW and the clarity of the truth will blind the eyes of the ignorance.
Heck compare the waterfront of the beach towns like Miami, SF etc to the waterfront of the huge lakes of DFW, the difference will make hearts weep.
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09-23-2007, 03:21 PM
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Who cares if there are million miles of lakefront in Dallas, when there are no walkways for the people, where they can go to waterfront, sit in a cafe, sip their coffees or teas while enjoying a nice cookie and watching the water having a nice conversation with one another.
This is perfectly possible on White Rock Lake. It has a limited traffic access road (Lawther) around the lake together with paved trails. You didn't see the pictures I posted?
Instead of dinner, I often have a picknick on the Peninsula and watch the sunset. After dark, once DT Dallas turns on the lights, the atmosphere is phenomenal.
Sure, some of the larger lakes only have sections that are publicly accessible but at least it is possible to actually afford a lake front property in DFW without being a multi-millionaire, like in SF or Miami or Chicago or Toronto or Montreal etc.
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Who cares if there are miles and miles of lakes when all the lakefront is occupied by the houses, not the citizens who paid for those lakes to be built and keep paying for those lakes to be maintained.
??? Just not true.
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Compare the lakefront of Toronto, Montreal, Chicago etc to the lakefronts of DFW and the clarity of the truth will blind the eyes of the ignorance.
I have been to all those cities and they are spectacular. I just returned from Miami on Friday and was impressed by the beaches.
It didn't make my heart weep though. Those are nice cities to visit, no doubt.
09-24-2007, 11:18 AM
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No walkways are you kidding? - we have miles of them - I must have been around White Rock a million times on them. You can go all the way north of LBJ on the White Rock trail at the north end of the lake. And soon it will be connected to the Katy Trail and the East Dallas Veloway and Tenison Trail. Also there is an additonal trail up the west side of the lake on that abandoned rail line which should be in place in a few years.
09-24-2007, 11:20 AM
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Speaking of Miami, try walking from the Colony Hotel to the Delano --- or have you tried to walk in SF from the Presidio to the Embarcadero?
09-24-2007, 01:37 PM
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I must have been around White Rock a million times on them. You can go all the way north of LBJ on the White Rock trail at the north end of the lake.
Wow,
Out of that many many lakes around DFW one old lake has walking trails.
One lake out of many.
And the idea is not about walking trail or not.
Do people have to go to waterfront just to exercise all the time?
Read my original post and see what I gripe about. It is not about walk to exercise. I run 6 miles a day on the streets. As long as you run it does not matter. But a human factor in the waterfront is what is missing.
And Dallas can not even be the nailtip of SF or Miami when it comes down to waterfront access and fun factor!
09-24-2007, 02:09 PM
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My family is planning to relocate to the North Dallas area from the Denver area within the next year or less. My husband will be working in Richardson, TX. We have two boys ages 1 and 3. I am very excited about this move because I will finally be able to take a break from my career and stay home with my children (we cannot afford to do that here in Colorado). We want to spend about $225k - $250k for a home. I am also a person who loves the heat and HATES the cold winters. I grew up in CA.
Frisco to Richardson sounds like an ugly commute. I've seen the interchange on the Bush where it meets the tollroad...it's very scary sometimes. If your hubby wants to be close to work in Richardson, I'd look at Plano and Allen and forget about Frisco and McKinney...McKinney is north of Allen and Central Expressway narrows up there. Rush hour ain't nothin' pretty.
09-24-2007, 02:11 PM
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Thats fine for your kids, not ours. we dont want them to be rednecks
Oh please. I grew up in Dallas and I'm not a redneck. I don't even own a pickup truck, I can't line dance...heck, I don't even own a cowboy hat. I speak French fluently, listen to classical music, and enjoy the arts...and I LOVE living in the metromess.
If you hate it so much, please do leave...but if you think Dallas is full of rednecks, I wonder how much time you've actually spent here.
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People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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