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Old 01-23-2012, 12:44 PM
 
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HP's practice facility wasn't funded with Operations money... was the Laredo stadium funded with RH distributions or a bond/city tax the way HP's was?

I know, you're just taking jabs at HPISD as you usually do, but find this out for me, so we can talk apples to apples.
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:05 PM
 
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HP's practice facility wasn't funded with Operations money... was the Laredo stadium funded with RH distributions or a bond/city tax the way HP's was?

I know, you're just taking jabs at HPISD as you usually do, but find this out for me, so we can talk apples to apples.
In the story it says, "Part of the funding came from a $1 million donation from school boosters".

Can you do the rest of the research for me?

It also says, "I hope those kids realize how fortunate they are to be able to practice in a facility like that.”
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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HPISD's residents approved the stadiums funds in a bond proposal. I don't see anything unethical or wrong about that. It wasn't funded with state or national funding, or from another area's taxpayers.

Life isn't fair. Everyone DESERVES & should have the BASICS - clothing, shelter, food. EVERYONE deserves those things. Everyone doesn't deserve Chanel clothing, a 6,000sf brand new McMansion, and dinner at the Mansion every night, but people who can afford those things can enjoy them, or share them with the less fortunate should they CHOOSE to share.

Same thing with school funding. Every school child should have a good education with passionate, knowledgable teachers backed by a supportive administration & school board. Every school child should be in a safe and maintained facility during the day and learn from current textbooks and classroom technology. Having a $4.5M practice facility isn't a "RIGHT" and it isn't crucial to a child's education (which is what Robin Hood is supposedly trying to even out in the state of TX....EDUCATION, not extracurriculars or athletics). It's not fair, but as my daddy always told me "get over it, life isn't fair."
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:21 PM
 
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In the story it says, "Part of the funding came from a $1 million donation from school boosters".

Can you do the rest of the research for me?

It also says, "I hope those kids realize how fortunate they are to be able to practice in a facility like that.”
The stadium was built with donations and also funds from the 2008 bond election which raised $75M for the district and was passed with 92% support.

Construction Projects (http://www.hpisd.org/hpisd/ConstructionProjects.aspx - broken link)
HPISD > hpisd > Communications > Press Releases > Election051008 (http://www.hpisd.org/hpisd/Communications/PressReleases/Election051008.aspx - broken link)
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:55 PM
 
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HPISD's residents approved the stadiums funds in a bond proposal. I don't see anything unethical or wrong about that. It wasn't funded with state or national funding, or from another area's taxpayers.

Life isn't fair. Everyone DESERVES & should have the BASICS - clothing, shelter, food. EVERYONE deserves those things. Everyone doesn't deserve Chanel clothing, a 6,000sf brand new McMansion, and dinner at the Mansion every night, but people who can afford those things can enjoy them, or share them with the less fortunate should they CHOOSE to share.

Same thing with school funding. Every school child should have a good education with passionate, knowledgable teachers backed by a supportive administration & school board. Every school child should be in a safe and maintained facility during the day and learn from current textbooks and classroom technology. Having a $4.5M practice facility isn't a "RIGHT" and it isn't crucial to a child's education (which is what Robin Hood is supposedly trying to even out in the state of TX....EDUCATION, not extracurriculars or athletics). It's not fair, but as my daddy always told me "get over it, life isn't fair."
Thanks for the lecture.
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Old 01-23-2012, 03:28 PM
 
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HPISD's residents approved the stadiums funds in a bond proposal. I don't see anything unethical or wrong about that. It wasn't funded with state or national funding, or from another area's taxpayers.

Life isn't fair. Everyone DESERVES & should have the BASICS - clothing, shelter, food. EVERYONE deserves those things. Everyone doesn't deserve Chanel clothing, a 6,000sf brand new McMansion, and dinner at the Mansion every night, but people who can afford those things can enjoy them, or share them with the less fortunate should they CHOOSE to share.

Same thing with school funding. Every school child should have a good education with passionate, knowledgable teachers backed by a supportive administration & school board. Every school child should be in a safe and maintained facility during the day and learn from current textbooks and classroom technology. Having a $4.5M practice facility isn't a "RIGHT" and it isn't crucial to a child's education (which is what Robin Hood is supposedly trying to even out in the state of TX....EDUCATION, not extracurriculars or athletics). It's not fair, but as my daddy always told me "get over it, life isn't fair."

I do not think I have ever agreed with a statement on this forum more than this one. 100 percent right.....
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Old 01-23-2012, 04:02 PM
 
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I do not think I have ever agreed with a statement on this forum more than this one. 100 percent right.....
OMG, we've finally found common ground!!
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Old 01-23-2012, 04:06 PM
 
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Thanks for the lecture.
Your comment about "maybe they were trying to compete with HP's practice facility" insinuated that one was needed as a matter of equality (since that's the backbone of RH), even if it was built via a government handout.

If that wasn't what you meant by posting that comment, then I see no reason for your comment to be relevant to the RH discussion.
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Old 01-23-2012, 08:32 PM
 
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OMG, we've finally found common ground!!
Pigs do fly....
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Old 01-24-2012, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Wylie, Texas
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Your comment about "maybe they were trying to compete with HP's practice facility" insinuated that one was needed as a matter of equality (since that's the backbone of RH), even if it was built via a government handout.

If that wasn't what you meant by posting that comment, then I see no reason for your comment to be relevant to the RH discussion.

I think the problem here is not the content of what you said which I actually agree with (I dont think RH funds should be used for football stadiums ever), but the source of the content, which would be you. A rich Parkie who's never had to struggle in her life telling poor kids that "life isnt fair, get over it" comes across as a bit...hmmm what's the word...arrogant maybe?

The bigger issue from my perspective is that no one out there in Laredo thought that maybe spending money on stadiums was a bad idea. If the educational standards are that bad, why on earth is this money not being poured into educational material/teachers? This is the problem. Not whether HP has a multi million dollar stadium. If Laredo and other poor ISDs had top notch education well maybe we could talk about the stadium, but not before.
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