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Old 05-20-2012, 01:10 PM
 
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Just saw Newsweek's top 1000 list. Only schools from DFW to make top 100 are : Dallas Magnets 2nd & 4th, North Hills Prep 14th, Highland Park 47th, Plano West 63rd. Some others who made the 1000 list are: Plano Sr 108, Colleyville 196, Southlake 210,Plano East 229, Coppell 429, Allen 651. Frisco and Prosper couldn't make the cut. Salutes to PISD for performing this well despite of high number of enrollment and economically disadvantaged students. Not to take it away from Dallas Magnet schools and North Hills but they have unfair advantage of being selective while others have to admit every one. Highland Park does natural selection by high real estate values. Three cheers to Planoites!!!

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Old 05-20-2012, 02:29 PM
 
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Here's the link: America's Best High Schools 2012 - The Daily Beast
Really, this list is incredibly useful because of the data provided (much better than that US news list from a while back). For the the first time we are provided with an average AP test score, which has been impossible to find in the past.

Interestingly enough, of Dallas area schools making the list, Southlake Carroll has the highest average AP score (3.8), followed by Plano West (3.6). A cause for concern might be SEM's average AP score of 2.6...

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Old 05-20-2012, 02:53 PM
 
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I think they are trying to make the process transparent to keep their credibility. By the way with Rice and Jasper feeding into Plano West, it's going to be a brain power house. We may manage to give magnets a fight for top positions.

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Old 05-20-2012, 09:47 PM
 
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What are the rating for Garland, Frisco and Prosper?
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:56 PM
 
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What are the rating for Garland, Frisco and Prosper?
They did not make the top 1,000, so they don't have a ranking.
Here is the full list of DFW schools in the top 1,000. Moderator cut: see comment

2 - Talented/Gifted magnet (Dallas ISD)
4 - Science/Engineering magnet (Dallas ISD)
14 - North Hills Prep (Uplift charter)
18 - Westlake (charter)
47 - Highland Park (Highland Park ISD)

59 - Summit Prep (Uplift charter)
63 - Plano West (Plano ISD)
108 - Plano Senior (Plano ISD)
116 - Law magnet (Dallas ISD)
184 - Business/Management magnet (Dallas ISD)

196 - Colleyville Heritage (Grapevine-Colleyville ISD)
206 - Perferming/Visual Arts magnet (Dallas ISD)
210 - Southlake Carroll Senior (Carroll ISD)
230 - Lovejoy (Lovejoy ISD)
243 - Plano East (Plano ISD)

264 - Williams Prep (Uplift charter)
370 - Harmony Science Ft. Worth (charter)
396 - Grapevine (Grapevine-Colleyville ISD)
429 - Coppell (Coppell ISD)
537 - Peak Prep (Uplift charter)

544 - Harmony Science Dallas (charter)
553 - FW Academy of Fine Arts (charter)
566 - JJ Pearce (Richardson ISD)
651 - Allen (Allen ISD)
767 - Richardson (Richardson ISD)

835 - Berkner (Richardson ISD)
846 - Rockwall (Rockwall ISD)
1000 - Flower Mound Marcus (Lewisville ISD)

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Old 05-20-2012, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Southlake. Don't judge me.
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Here's the link: America's Best High Schools 2012 - The Daily Beast
Really, this list is incredibly useful because of the data provided (much better than that US news list from a while back). For the the first time we are provided with an average AP test score, which has been impossible to find in the past.

Interestingly enough, of Dallas area schools making the list, Southlake Carroll has the highest average AP score (3.8), followed by Plano West (3.6). A cause for concern might be SEM's average AP score of 2.6...
Thank you for the link! More metrics...YAY!

What's interesting to me (coming from IL) is that most of the schools around Chicago are hurt by low rates of AP tests taken, in spite of higher SAT/ACT's. However, the average score on the AP tests is very high. For example, I've often compared Highland Park HS here to New Trier HS there, as they are similar in a few ways (And I believe TC80 has pointed out that there's been some degree of communication between the two schools). HP is ranked 47th, with SAT/ACTs of 1786/26.8, compared to New Trier at 189th with 1942/27.5. HP has 100% graduation rate and 98% college bound, compared to New Trier at 99/98 (interestingly enough, these 2 factors make up 50% of the rating, so that 1% difference may be significant.)

But the largest difference is that AP tests taken per student is 25% of the ranking, and at HP it's 1.3 per student compared to only 0.4 at New Trier. But New Trier's students average 4.3 on their AP tests, compared to 3.2 at HP.

Which is why I love this data - if I disagree with the methodology of the ratings, I'm free to drop the numbers into a spreadsheet, assign my own weights, and see what comes up. Which is important for practical reasons because in looking at schools here in DFW, Carroll's 3.8 AP test average may mean more to me than their 0.6 rate, compared to Colleyville Heritage (3.2 and 1.0). Then again, Heritage does that with a 45% subsidized lunch student body compared to Carroll's 2%. (Is that 45% number correct? Really?)
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:28 PM
 
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These stats are very informative. Realtors only tell me about ratings according to state testing which isn't the most reliable approach to see the bigger picture for the whole school stream you are trying to buy a home in.
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:43 PM
 
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Actually Southlake doesn't perform as well as they should with their socioeconomic statistics. They are in same league as Plano 's disadvantaged kid Plano East inspite of all the resources.
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Southlake. Don't judge me.
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Actually Southlake doesn't perform as well as they should with their socioeconomic statistics. They are in same league as Plano 's disadvantaged kid Plano East inspite of all the resources.
FWIW, I agree with you and have commented on that before. Pound-for-pound, as it were, Plano's schools would appear to be the best in the area.

However, for personal reasons I'm looking primarily at GCISD and Carroll right now, so the more and varied data I can find, the better.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:13 AM
 
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No worries man! Southlake is a great town as well and if commute suits you then you should go for it.
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