Denver to Dallas? (Austin, Plano, Carrollton: 2013, home, bankruptcy)

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by GoneNative

Very helpful. Thank you. I think that in November the Denver metro area was something like 55-45 for Obama, so it is probably not as conservative as DFW. That said, however, that's only a 10 point gap, and the perception of Denver is that it's very liberal and that Dallas is very conservative. It seems that really neither is true.

When you look at the metro areas as a whole, its probably safe to say that both Dallas and Denver are moderate more than anything else. Denver is moderate with liberal leanings and DFW is moderate with conservative leanings.

[wankel7]

Originally Posted by GoneNative

* We're somewhat outdoorsy, and I'm concerned that missing the mountains would be a big hit.

* Dallas always struck me as somewhat glamorous, especially compared to Denver, to the point of being downright materialistic. Is that true only of some areas? Is that even true?

* Are the COLs comparable?

Thanks for your advice, experience, and help.

- I question your idea of "outdoorsy" if you are considering a move to Dallas. If you care remotely for having mountains near you then you don't move to Dallas. Period.

- I think COL is comparable if you live moderately. CO has income tax and low property tax. However, TX has no income tax and high property tax.

- Downtown Dallas is pretty lame. However, Downtown Ft. Worth is pretty awesome.

- I moved from Texas and lived in CO for two years. It changed my life. I got into rock climbing, backpacking , snowboarding , and mountain biking. I then moved back to Dallas when I lost my job and I met a girl when I moved to Texas. I think about CO everyday and how amazing it would be to move back. I spend a lot of time driving 24+ hour round trip road trips going back to CO to play outside.

Dallas is flat, hot, and the highways are straighter than a ruler. There are pretty parts in Texas such as Big Bend, Enchanted Rock, and the Lower Pecos. You will learn to love NW Arkansas for all of its public land, mountains, trees, and trails.

Basically, if I never had lived in Colorado than Texass would have been a great place to live but I did and Texas sucks for the outdoors.

[TrueDat]

Originally Posted by BigDGeek

If we want to nitpick, then yes; but usually people outside of Dallas are referring to the metro area when they say 'Dallas', not Dallas proper. It's like saying 'well X isn't really in LA, it's in Reseda.'

Speaking of nitpicking , actually Reseda is not a city but a neighborhood in the city of Los Angeles -- like Studio City or Van Nuys though many people outside of LA think they are their own cities. Despite some efforts to separate over the years, much of the San Fernando Valley remains part of the city of Los Angeles.

Reseda, Los Angeles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For the OP, if you don't mind driving 2-4 hours for your outdoor entertainment (Hill Country, parts of Oklahoma and Arkansas), then Dallas isn't such a bad place to be. And there are some okay trails if you're into mountain biking, especially in the southern part of Dallas County. But, yeah, it's no Denver. Having said that, Dallas is a more sophisticated, ethnically diverse city than Dallas.

[Considering Coming Back]

Originally Posted by GoneNative

I looked at those numbers, too. But how much of Collin and Denton Counties are actually part of the Metroplex? In other words, did Romney do so well in Collin and Denton counties because of the rural parts of those counties, or is most of that from suburban DFW voters?

And, also, what are the Tarrant and Dallas County suburbs like? Is Richardson, in Dallas County, also liberal like the city?

All of Collin and Denton are part of the Metroplex. They are suburban in form with the exception of their far corners-- but no one lives there (yet).

Richardson has more red than blue precincts, but I'm not sure what the total was. Here's what the vote looked like in Dallas County:

Dallas - Election Results

[BigDGeek]

Originally Posted by GoneNative

I looked at those numbers, too. But how much of Collin and Denton Counties are actually part of the Metroplex? In other words, did Romney do so well in Collin and Denton counties because of the rural parts of those counties, or is most of that from suburban DFW voters?

And, also, what are the Tarrant and Dallas County suburbs like? Is Richardson, in Dallas County, also liberal like the city?

Richardson is less liberal than Dallas but more liberal than Collin County.

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[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by TrueDat

Having said that, Dallas is a more sophisticated, ethnically diverse city than Dallas.

???

[mSooner]

Collin County is red red red but if you're looking for a metro area where there are hardly any liberals, this isn't it. Try Oklahoma City.

haha, well there are a few liberal professors and students at OU struggling to breathe in the conservative air, so it isn't 100% true

[Fillmont]

Originally Posted by justme02

???

Fairly certain the second Dallas is meant to be Denver. Damn those D named cities!

[BigDGeek]

Originally Posted by mSooner

haha, well there are a few liberal professors and students at OU struggling to breathe in the conservative air, so it isn't 100% true

It's more conservative than DFW though!

[TrueDat]

Obama received close to 42% of the vote in Oklahoma County. That's a lot of professors and students!