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Dallas can go one of two way. It can either continue with renewal, or it can perish into blight along with Detroit and a lot of other inner city cores rotted away by socialism.
As the city seems to be developing now, a new retail center seems to be forming after dissolving many years ago within downtown Dallas reshaping in the area of where Lemmon Avenue crosses over McKinney in the West Village / CityPlace development. If the city would just get out of the way allowing the developers to determine what the scale will be, then something like Michigan Avenue in Chicago could develop over time. From that significant establishment, then the rest of Dallas would fall into place easier.
Why not cooperate with developers to help create a neighborhood that doesn't need tax incentives to attract others to build in? The idea of developing retail equally in all places is naive and childish.
Either the city of Dallas will choose to open things up for the sake of the renewal of neighborhoods outside of the city core, or the city core itself is going to have to turn to socialism the likes of which will end up spending huge amounts of money just maintaining itself within a fallacy surrounded by huge areas of urban blight.
Development begins with retail in the city of Dallas and always has. If the retail isn't allowed to reform somewhere within the city core instead of all over the place as city government desires it to, then the core city of Dallas and renewal elsewhere is doomed to failure.
Dallas can go one of two way. It can either continue with renewal, or it can perish into blight along with Detroit and a lot of other inner city cores rotted away by socialism.
As the city seems to be developing now, a new retail center seems to be forming after dissolving many years ago within downtown Dallas reshaping in the area of where Lemmon Avenue crosses over McKinney in the West Village / CityPlace development. If the city would just get out of the way allowing the developers to determine what the scale will be, then something like Michigan Avenue in Chicago could develop over time. From that significant establishment, then the rest of Dallas would fall into place easier.
Why not cooperate with developers to help create a neighborhood that doesn't need tax incentives to attract others to build in? The idea of developing retail equally in all places is naive and childish.
Either the city of Dallas will choose to open things up for the sake of the renewal of neighborhoods outside of the city core, or the city core itself is going to have to turn to socialism the likes of which will end up spending huge amounts of money just maintaining itself within a fallacy surrounded by huge areas of urban blight.
Development begins with retail in the city of Dallas and always has. If the retail isn't allowed to reform somewhere within the city core instead of all over the place as city government desires it to, then the core city of Dallas and renewal elsewhere is doomed to failure.
Dallas can go one of two way. It can either continue with renewal, or it can perish into blight along with Detroit and a lot of other inner city cores rotted away by socialism.
As the city seems to be developing now, a new retail center seems to be forming after dissolving many years ago within downtown Dallas reshaping in the area of where Lemmon Avenue crosses over McKinney in the West Village / CityPlace development. If the city would just get out of the way allowing the developers to determine what the scale will be, then something like Michigan Avenue in Chicago could develop over time. From that significant establishment, then the rest of Dallas would fall into place easier.
Why not cooperate with developers to help create a neighborhood that doesn't need tax incentives to attract others to build in? The idea of developing retail equally in all places is naive and childish.
Either the city of Dallas will choose to open things up for the sake of the renewal of neighborhoods outside of the city core, or the city core itself is going to have to turn to socialism the likes of which will end up spending huge amounts of money just maintaining itself within a fallacy surrounded by huge areas of urban blight.
Development begins with retail in the city of Dallas and always has. If the retail isn't allowed to reform somewhere within the city core instead of all over the place as city government desires it to, then the core city of Dallas and renewal elsewhere is doomed to failure.
What are you trying to say? could you post some significant instances of what you are criticizing? Is it the zoning you don't like? Are you aware of how many large retail developments are shot down by neighborhood groups every year? What do you mean by "developing retail equally"? Are you saying there should be more suburban power centers despite Dallas being landlocked? Just confused on how you are comparing Dallas(huge amounts of development and even population growth despite tearing down tens of thousands of apartment units in the past 10 years) and Detroit.
Dallas can go one of two way. It can either continue with renewal, or it can perish into blight along with Detroit and a lot of other inner city cores rotted away by socialism.
As the city seems to be developing now, a new retail center seems to be forming after dissolving many years ago within downtown Dallas reshaping in the area of where Lemmon Avenue crosses over McKinney in the West Village / CityPlace development. If the city would just get out of the way allowing the developers to determine what the scale will be, then something like Michigan Avenue in Chicago could develop over time. From that significant establishment, then the rest of Dallas would fall into place easier.
Why not cooperate with developers to help create a neighborhood that doesn't need tax incentives to attract others to build in? The idea of developing retail equally in all places is naive and childish.
Either the city of Dallas will choose to open things up for the sake of the renewal of neighborhoods outside of the city core, or the city core itself is going to have to turn to socialism the likes of which will end up spending huge amounts of money just maintaining itself within a fallacy surrounded by huge areas of urban blight.
Development begins with retail in the city of Dallas and always has. If the retail isn't allowed to reform somewhere within the city core instead of all over the place as city government desires it to, then the core city of Dallas and renewal elsewhere is doomed to failure.
Maybe start with figuring out your electric bill before taking a stab at city planning....
What are you trying to say? could you post some significant instances of what you are criticizing? Is it the zoning you don't like? Are you aware of how many large retail developments are shot down by neighborhood groups every year? What do you mean by "developing retail equally"? Are you saying there should be more suburban power centers despite Dallas being landlocked? Just confused on how you are comparing Dallas(huge amounts of development and even population growth despite tearing down tens of thousands of apartment units in the past 10 years) and Detroit.
Okay, here is what I'm trying to say.
1) The West Village and CityPlace area is perhaps the crossroads of what is the inner core of Dallas. In its vicinity are located a DART Subway, a trolley, Central Expressway, McKinney Avenue, Lemmon Avenue, and the Katy Trail.
2) Although DART thinks of downtown as the center of its system, actually the three stations and the potential for adding another subway between downtown and the Park Lane station have the most potential to succeed fabulously and become the anchor for the whole DART system. Living somewhere between downtown and all that commercial in and around North Park mall seems very convenient even to the extent that the people living in that area could think about doing without a car.
3) The fallacy still persists that retail is created by way of enticing developers to build it all over. The idea that little bits of retail all over should come first before the mall gets built within the middle of it is backwards. First comes the mall as an anchor and then huge amounts of retail follows being built around it. Forget about the retail for now. instead, concentrate on where the major concentration of retail is gong to establish itself. That area isn't going to be in Victory Park. It isn't going to happen downtown. It isn't going to happen along Maple Avenue although that area has huge growth potential. It isn't even going to happen in and around the Arts District.
As it stands now, the area with the most potential to develop retail is the CityPlace / West Village area. Getting that built up first will then spur retail in the other areas mentioned before. It has already been built up somewhat with West Village.
I'm talking about all that department store retail that dissolved long ago in downtown reforming somewhere else in the city core. In Dallas, retail will always be the key. If you want anything to succeed, it is retail that makes it succeed. in Dallas, it isn't the skyscrapers that attract retail, but vice versa.
I'm trying to express here how the city is mucking things up. They are tempting fate by interfering with developers in the process of structuring retail in a way that works best drawing out the lack of retail for decade after decade with no success. All it will take for the core of the city to fail is another recession because recoveries from downturns in the economy become the start of a whole new age of technology attracting those customers who are rich enough to be fickle away towards that the next bigger, better, and more fashionable deal.
For now, the idea of attracting retail back to downtown should take a rest. The same is true for Victory and the Arts District.
Really, it is the area around the CityPlace / West Village area where established successful retail is most likely to be bought up to make room for even more significant retail.
And just consider how the terminal at Love Field hasn't come online yet?
The CityPlace development by Southland didn't fail in the late eighties because of its location, but because the state of Texas suffered through a severe oil depression. That area today is becoming the epicenter of the city core of Dallas.
4) I'm talking about a string of multi-level department stores being built somewhere in the City-Place area along McKinney. Of course, if the neighborhood associations don't allow it, then that should take the fire out of further renewal reaching out to the further neighborhoods surrounding Dallas. Downtown Dallas is fast becoming a high rise residential neighborhood as it is no longer considered a growing office market. It is no longer conidered the prime commercial shopping district of the Dallas - Fort Worth area.
This issue is going to come to a head. If it is put out in the open and allowed to simmer, then the neighborhoods in and around the West Village and CityPlace area might come around to being more tolerant of a major commercial shopping district being allowed to reform in that area.
This is the point I am trying to make. Upper McKinney should be recognized as the prime area for retail. Next in line should be the Design District. After that, then retail should fall into place flourishing as the people want it to do. Just as retail, as in the majority of the instances, always falls into place around the development of an anchor mall.
Dallas is not going to turn into Detroit, don't be absurd.
However the trend I'm seeing is that Dallas seems hell-bent on pushing its middle class into the suburbs in favor of wealthier people. Seems like increasingly the only people living in Dallas south of 635 are rich or poor. No in-between.
Maybe start with figuring out your electric bill before taking a stab at city planning....
I'm attending therapy concerning my electric bill. It has gotten to the point I won't allow anyone to touch me. I took twenty showers last night which is now running up my water bill. I do appreciate the help from my beloved forum members, but it has gotten so bad I don't even read my bank statements. I don't care how much money is there any more. Let them steal my identity from me and never get a date. It will serve those fatherless children right.
sounds like you are talking about the new Farmers Market development plan.
No, I'm talking about the city focusing on what it does best which is transitioning neighborhoods together. I'm thinking that will become the one aspect about Dallas more than anything else setting it apart if, and that is a big if, it finds a way to continue with this transitioning. The core of Dallas is fast becoming a round city in how the city center, with this being both downtown and Uptown, is, in most instances, directly connected to the ten square miles surrounding it.
Think of how the Heights in Houston, located northwest of downtown, is very popular, but indirectly connected to downtown Houston. In contrast, Oak Cliff, southwest of downtown Dallas, is directly connected to downtown Dallas. The same is now true of West Dallas. The development of a toxic waste dump into Victory Park helped transitioned the Dallas Design District better into Uptown. Harry Hines connects with the Dallas Market Center and the Southwestern Medical District. Maple and Lemmon connect the city core with Love Field. McKinney connects the core with CityPlace / West Village.
Streets built under the Dallas Convention Center and then over a submerged freeway work to transition the Cedars and Southside neighborhoods into the core. That elevated freeway east of downtown Dallas sucks. However, Central was built below grade north of that to help transition those neighborhoods. And Main Street does connect with Deep Ellum and the Dallas Fair Park while Gaston connects the core to both the Baylor Medical Center and to Lakewood further out.
Speaking of Houston, the retail in its core area is still located downtown. That is not true concerning the core area of Dallas.
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