Winter Ice Storm Events - December, 2013 - DFW Area (Dallas: living, cost)

[pinipig523]

I just don't get why Dallas just doesn't store salt for this once a year event.... you don't need plow trucks for snow or ice this thin, just salt. The reason for the ice is simply because it doesn't get cold enough here.... add salt to that mix and you lower the freezing point that it doesn't even form ice and remains water.

Why doesn't Dallas just salt?

And what's up with this sand? It just clogs the drains and helps ZERO.

So frustrated that a city as prosperous as Dallas can't prevent a shutdown like this.... the losses in revenue from stores, airports and the injuries from accidents and falls are SEVERAL folds higher than the cost of keeping salt for a time like this.

If Chicago can salt and Chicago is poor as heck - why can't Dallas?

And don't give me that "it only happens once a few years" nonsense... this has apparently been happing nearly yearly as of late. This is nearly inexcusable. We know we get cold here, we know it snows once in a while.

Yes, LA this is expected... but not Dallas.

[BigDGeek]

Originally Posted by BeanyMalone

My power went out again at 8 last night. The original estimate was back on today at 2 PM, but it was back on at 9:30 last night. Not sure what accounts for my different experience in 75080. Based on my personal experience, given the circumstances, I am not unhappy at all.

You should be thrilled. We've been down for over 36 hours on my street with no estimate of when the power will be restored. No Oncor trucks in the area either from what I've heard.

Originally Posted by MckinneyOwnr

Unless you have 4wd and a 4-lo setting, I wouldn't go out. Saw lots of stuck cars yesterday and today. The only vehicles I'm seeing having a decent time of it are Jeeps and 4wd trucks.

Yeah...I went out yesterday in a Prius, it was fine.

[BigDGeek]

Complain on; I don't care about the roads at all, I just want my friggin' electricity back. People on my street have been without for over 36 hours with no estimate of restoration.

[little elmer]

A guy went over the bridge on 35E into Lewisville Lake this morning - that's my normal daily path.

Creepy.

[highcotton]

Originally Posted by BigDGeek

Complain on; I don't care about the roads at all, I just want my friggin' electricity back. People on my street have been without for over 36 hours with no estimate of restoration.

Complain on; but you have twice a week trash pickup...

[highcotton]

Originally Posted by little elmer

A guy went over the bridge on 35E into Lewisville Lake this morning - that's my normal daily path.

Creepy.

Was it kenshi? Was the guy riding a moped and look creepy?

[BigDGeek]

Originally Posted by highcotton

Complain on; but you have twice a week trash pickup...

I'd trade that for RELIABLE electric service. Our power goes out all the time. ALL. THE. TIME. It's something I've put up with for four years because I like my neighborhood but after this...I am seriously considering moving out of this part of Richardson. I can't stand it anymore.

[VegasMan_72]

Originally Posted by pinipig523

I just don't get why Dallas just doesn't store salt for this once a year event.... you don't need plow trucks for snow or ice this thin, just salt. The reason for the ice is simply because it doesn't get cold enough here.... add salt to that mix and you lower the freezing point that it doesn't even form ice and remains water.

Why doesn't Dallas just salt?

And what's up with this sand? It just clogs the drains and helps ZERO.

So frustrated that a city as prosperous as Dallas can't prevent a shutdown like this.... the losses in revenue from stores, airports and the injuries from accidents and falls are SEVERAL folds higher than the cost of keeping salt for a time like this.

If Chicago can salt and Chicago is poor as heck - why can't Dallas?

And don't give me that "it only happens once a few years" nonsense... this has apparently been happing nearly yearly as of late. This is nearly inexcusable. We know we get cold here, we know it snows once in a while.

Yes, LA this is expected... but not Dallas.

Salt is very harmful to the environment and human health plus it corrodes reinforced concrete pavement, which most of the Dallas pavements are. I don't know about the East Coast but many Western States (CA, NV, CO, WA) have stopped salting roads years ago and now just use sand.

[highcotton]

Originally Posted by BigDGeek

I'd trade that for RELIABLE electric service. Our power goes out all the time. ALL. THE. TIME. It's something I've put up with for four years because I like my neighborhood but after this...I am seriously considering moving out of this part of Richardson. I can't stand it anymore.

With the power being off that long isn't your house getting a little bit on the chilly side of being comfortable?

[DitsyD]

Originally Posted by pinipig523

I just don't get why Dallas just doesn't store salt for this once a year event.... you don't need plow trucks for snow or ice this thin, just salt. The reason for the ice is simply because it doesn't get cold enough here.... add salt to that mix and you lower the freezing point that it doesn't even form ice and remains water.

Why doesn't Dallas just salt?

And what's up with this sand? It just clogs the drains and helps ZERO.

So frustrated that a city as prosperous as Dallas can't prevent a shutdown like this.... the losses in revenue from stores, airports and the injuries from accidents and falls are SEVERAL folds higher than the cost of keeping salt for a time like this.

If Chicago can salt and Chicago is poor as heck - why can't Dallas?

And don't give me that "it only happens once a few years" nonsense... this has apparently been happing nearly yearly as of late. This is nearly inexcusable. We know we get cold here, we know it snows once in a while.

Yes, LA this is expected... but not Dallas.

Some areas got more then 3" of sleet on top of the freezing rain. THAT is not thin ice.

The salt is not good for the environment. The chemical de-icer doesn't work when the freezing rain washes it away.

Ice storms are different creatures than snow storms.

Thankful that I have electricity and food. The rest is just an inconvenience.

Temps in the teens isn't cold?