06-23-2014, 08:10 AM
Location: Dallas, TX
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One of my fondest memories growing up was when my Dad would take me on Indian Guide trips as a kid. I'm looking to start making the same types of memories with my boys this fall(just one of them currently) and wanted some opinions. We will sign up for Adventure Guides(formerly Indian Guides) when my son is old enough(he's only 2), but for now I'm just looking to do a farther and son weekend trip. I'm looking for some place we can build a little camp fire, maybe fish standing on the shore but also not an RV type camping site. I want to be able to be out there all weekend and do a little exploring without seeing people every 10 minutes. I will have a tent, so no cabin will be needed. I'm willing to travel up to 3 -4 hours from Dallas in any direction, thanks!
06-23-2014, 08:21 AM
Location: Dallas area, Texas
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One of my fondest memories growing up was when my Dad would take me on Indian Guide trips as a kid. I'm looking to start making the same types of memories with my boys this fall(just one of them currently) and wanted some opinions. We will sign up for Adventure Guides(formerly Indian Guides) when my son is old enough(he's only 2), but for now I'm just looking to do a farther and son weekend trip. I'm looking for some place we can build a little camp fire, maybe fish standing on the shore but also not an RV type camping site. I want to be able to be out there all weekend and do a little exploring without seeing people every 10 minutes. I will have a tent, so no cabin will be needed. I'm willing to travel up to 3 -4 hours from Dallas in any direction, thanks!
Your son is only 2, so why the need to not see people? Do you want to be strapped in a car seat for hours to get to a camp site where everything is strange? What a way to start the trip off badly.
What is wrong with starting off in a nearby state or corp of engineer park with picnic tables and toilets? It is still camping, but less scary for a toddler.
You sound desperate for wanting to go off grid with a two year old. Relax and enjoy the time, not the macho-ness of it all.
06-23-2014, 08:31 AM
Location: Dallas, TX
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Your son is only 2, so why the need to not see people? Do you want to be strapped in a car seat for hours to get to a camp site where everything is strange? What a way to start the trip off badly.
We've taken multiple 3+ hours road trips with our toddler and have never had any issues. It has nothing to do with the "macho-ness"...man some people on this site sure do judge a whole bunch without knowing a single thing
. I'm not looking to be in the wild miles from anyone, I just don't want to be woken up to people "next door" making a bunch of noise, starting up their RV, staying up late and partying, etc. I don't know how a picnic table is going to make him more relaxed, he hardly uses the one at home, lol.
If anyone has any advice on places, please post them up!
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06-23-2014, 09:12 AM
Location: Dallas, TX
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On a side note, I'd really like to get my son used to outdoor adventures a few times when he is still young and open to just about anything we throw at him, before we go on a trip with 10 other kids and dads. It won't be a brand new scary experience to him then, and his calm demeanor may even help the other children who may not have been away from their house and mom for an entire weekend.
06-23-2014, 09:14 AM
Location: NJ
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Your son is only 2, so why the need to not see people? Do you want to be strapped in a car seat for hours to get to a camp site where everything is strange? What a way to start the trip off badly.
I feel bad for your kids if this is how you treated them. Since my son was born, my wife and I have taken our son to VT, NH, Upstate NY, Alabama, VA, and this year Maine. Longest trip 15 hours, the rest no shorter then 6 hours. Whats wrong with doing that? Why would a toddler he scared of nature? My son has hiked with my wife and I, Mount Washington, Mount Mansfield, and hes keep snowshoeing with us as well. We handle him very well, and he never once cries or complains about anything. HE love the outdoors. If you need picinic tables and bathrooms, maybe you should stay home with your wife. Im pretty sure His son isnt going to be the slightest upset for sleeping in a tent, or peeing in the woods, and whatever else he decides to do. Dont listen to this person.
06-23-2014, 10:12 AM
Location: Dallas area, Texas
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I feel bad for your kids if this is how you treated them. Since my son was born, my wife and I have taken our son to VT, NH, Upstate NY, Alabama, VA, and this year Maine. Longest trip 15 hours, the rest no shorter then 6 hours. Whats wrong with doing that? Why would a toddler he scared of nature? My son has hiked with my wife and I, Mount Washington, Mount Mansfield, and hes keep snowshoeing with us as well. We handle him very well, and he never once cries or complains about anything. HE love the outdoors. If you need picinic tables and bathrooms, maybe you should stay home with your wife. Im pretty sure His son isnt going to be the slightest upset for sleeping in a tent, or peeing in the woods, and whatever else he decides to do. Dont listen to this person.
Nope. We have done road trips with little ones, but know that a car seat is not built for comfort. Why take a 4 hour trip just to remote camp with a toddler? Does the remoteness really matter to a two year old? Why take eight hours from your trip just to drive? That time could be spent fishing or hiking or watching a spider build a web.
We camp. Camped with little ones too. But, we did park camping, in a tent, for a few times before we did remote camping. Things went more smoothly because we had experience camping before really roughing it. I've camped in the dessert with a preschooler; no toilets, no people, lots of sand and rock and cacti.
IMHO, it is easier when you have practiced when the environment isn't so extreme. If the OP is asking for remote camping spots, that says that the OP hasn't been camping in awhile. Camping with a toddler is different than camping without a toddler. Just the nature of toddlers.
06-23-2014, 10:19 AM
Location: Dallas, TX
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I think you're confused. I'm not asking for somewhere not accessible by car, that we have to hike miles to get to(we're not in the pacific northwest). I'm looking, as I stated in my title, for something fairly remote. Maybe a FEW bathrooms around, but not cabins, rv hook ups, grills, etc. etc. I actually found something in Oklahoma just now that looks to be what I'm looking for. Something like area 3 here:
Camping
*It's also not just a trip for the toddler. I have a feeling I'll get just as much out of this as he will, if not more. It's for the both of us. I could sit in my backyard and build a fire, watch spiders build a web, fish at the park down the street(or the lake house) etc. etc. I'm not looking for that.
06-23-2014, 10:44 AM
Location: Colleyville
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As a person who has spent time in the state parks of TX, I totally get what you mean! You want a little peace and quiet and don't want partying rednecks playing loud music next to your campsite. I think it's a lovely idea and you and your son will have a great time. I wonder if Glen Rose would work at an off season time (fewer crowds) and the dinosaur stuff might be fun? Not a bad drive fm Dallas but close enough to keep the car time down.
06-23-2014, 10:54 AM
Location: Dallas, TX
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As a person who has spent time in the state parks of TX, I totally get what you mean! You want a little peace and quiet and don't want partying rednecks playing loud music next to your campsite. I think it's a lovely idea and you and your son will have a great time. I wonder if Glen Rose would work at an off season time (fewer crowds) and the dinosaur stuff might be fun? Not a bad drive fm Dallas but close enough to keep the car time down.
PERFECT! I'm glad someone gets it. I'll have to look into Glen Rose, thank you for the suggestion.
06-23-2014, 11:55 AM
Location: Dallas, TX
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We camped at this place a couple of times back when my kid was not much older than yours. I can't testify to it today, but back in the day, it was VERY lightly trafficked, because you have to walk to most of the campsites. Run by the Army Corps of Engineers, it is nothing like a typical TX State Park Campground. Right on the lake, as well.
Ticks all your boxes - fire pit, fishing, hiking, not many people.
Best part? It is right here *IN* the DFW area. So if the camping weekend goes south, you can be back home in 30-45 minutes.
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People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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. I'm not looking to be in the wild miles from anyone, I just don't want to be woken up to people "next door" making a bunch of noise, starting up their RV, staying up late and partying, etc. I don't know how a picnic table is going to make him more relaxed, he hardly uses the one at home, lol. 
