Why is south Dallas so "Empty" (Addison, Trinity: real estate, apartments)

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by Trae713

Sad that the best natural looking area in DFW has the least development and all the growth went to the generally treeless prairie up north. South Dallas and the South Dallas suburbs just do not have the best schools compared to the north and less entertainment. It is funny that the opposite is true for the Fort Worth side, where the southern half is better than the North.

This natural phenomenon is because South Dallas has the Trinity River & trees in that region of the state are generally only found near water sources like rivers, lakes, & other waterways. All you have to do is look at a satellite imagery of D/FW to see that.

Most of the mature trees in places like Plano & Frisco were planted decades ago when people started settling there instead of farming there meaning they aren't the same trees that were originally there 50-100 years ago.

[Dallaz]

Originally Posted by Trae713

Sad that the best natural looking area in DFW has the least development and all the growth went to the generally treeless prairie up north. South Dallas and the South Dallas suburbs just do not have the best schools compared to the north and less entertainment. It is funny that the opposite is true for the Fort Worth side, where the southern half is better than the North.

I agree, it's sad.

In parts of Southern Dallas, you can see the Dallas Skyline clearly on the rolling terrain without going into a multistory building. Even Mayor Mike Rawlings said that Southern Dallas is the best area of the city geographically. He's trying really hard to get investment into the area but there's still a negative stigma associated with Southern Dallas.

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

This natural phenomenon is because South Dallas has the Trinity River & trees in that region of the state are generally only found near water sources like rivers, lakes, & other waterways. All you have to do is look at a satellite imagery of D/FW to see that.

Most of the mature trees in places like Plano & Frisco were planted decades ago when people started settling there instead of farming there meaning they aren't the same trees that were originally there 50-100 years ago.

You said all of this to say what???....oh what Trae said sounded to positive for southern dallas for you so you made sure that everyone knows that the Natural Pretty trees are an accident because everyone knows that there's not one tree in Dallas.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by Dallaz

What would happen to Plano, if a whole section of the city didn't see significant investment in the next 50 years? I'll tell you what will happen, it would end up like Oak Cliff, Pleasant Grove, South Dallas, etc. (former middle class areas now mostly blighted)

We already have that on the East side, yet its doing just fine.

Here is the reason why. The areas the OP named are heavily industrial (especially off 45). There are precious few neighborhoods, on a national level, located near heavy industry that are nice.

[Dallaz]

Originally Posted by peterlemonjello

We already have that on the East side, yet its doing just fine.

Here is the reason why. The areas the OP named are heavily industrial (especially off 45). There are precious few neighborhoods, on a national level, located near heavy industry that are nice.

I highly doubt that Plano's "undesirable" neighborhoods are comparable to Dallas'.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by dallasboi

You said all of this to say what???....oh what Trae said sounded to positive for southern dallas for you so you made sure that everyone knows that the Natural Pretty trees are an accident because everyone knows that there's not one tree in Dallas.

Inside of Loop 12 you'll find a lot of trees & a decent canopy at that because it is "urban Dallas". Outside of that, not so much. Trees there have had a long time to mature & reproduce without development plowing them down to build a McMansion or Wal-Mart.

What you guys in the Metroplex call a tree we call an overgrown bush here in East Texas. I'm sure Dallas would look very lush & green to someone from Phoenix though. Different perspectives for different people.

[kidicarus89]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

Plano East already looks ghetto.

Its the "less desirable" side of Plano.

East Plano looks a little run down but I don't think it's as bad as parts of South Dallas, which resemble Rust Belt industrial zones.

Besides, it has Poor Richard's, home of the best breakfast in the DFW area!

[PatriciaWas]

Check out East Plano near PESH (Parker & Los Rios) or near Murphy/Richardson border. You'll be pleasently surprised to see parks, ranches and newer communities. I would recommend going to East Plano's old downtown as well. Eat a pizza at Urban Crust and see Interburn Railway Museum. See what city has done and doing in that area. There are many projects in pipeline as well.

[MurphyPl1]

Originally Posted by PatriciaWas

Check out East Plano near PESH (Parker & Los Rios) or near Murphy/Richardson border. You'll be pleasently surprised to see parks, ranches and newer communities. I would recommend going to East Plano's old downtown as well. Eat a pizza at Urban Crust and see Interburn Railway Museum. See what city has done and doing in that area. There are many projects in pipeline as well.

Actually a little further south at Park and Los Rios are some very nicely kept neighborhoods as well. They aren't shiny new and huge, but they are nicer homes from the 70s and a majority of the neighbors have kept them up. And they've got the mature trees that were planted when the homes were new. Oh and they are a stones throw from two parks and a golf course.

[Acntx]

Originally Posted by Trae713

Sad that the best natural looking area in DFW has the least development and all the growth went to the generally treeless prairie up north. South Dallas and the South Dallas suburbs just do not have the best schools compared to the north and less entertainment. It is funny that the opposite is true for the Fort Worth side, where the southern half is better than the North.

The area described as "empty" by the OP is fully located within the city limits of Dallas. The southern suburbs of Dallas are separate communities that have grown and continue to do so, not at the rate of the most popular northern suburbs, but significantly nonetheless. The reasons why South Dallas is so "empty" don't necessarily apply to the suburbs "South of Dallas," yet they are frequently lumped together as if no difference exists between the two areas, which isn't the case. This type of broad-brushing is rarely applied to other suburban areas in DFW, including those that are in close proximity to a sketchy, problematic neighborhood.