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Old 03-23-2015, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Keller, Tx
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I think in 10 years we'll finally have a thriving Downtown area. Uptown is already there and is only getting more and more dense by the day. We are seeing new development happening in Oak Cliff, West Dallas, the Cedars, and East Dallas as well, which will create a thriving downtown area surrounded by unique and cool urban neighborhoods. I could see all of the above being about as dense as Uptown as today in about 10 years.

Also, the Plano/Frisco area around 121 and DNT will be insane in 10 years. So much growth going on there, but I don't think the residents in that area are really prepared for how dense it'll all become.

I also think Downtown Plano will continue to grow all the way down to where State Farm is currently located creating another nice little urban core there.

What I would love to see is the Trinity River area utilized better in the next 10 years. There's a lot of potential there, it's just not being used correctly. I don't really have high hopes for the area, but I would love to be proven wrong.
If the citizens are paying attention they will. All they have to do is look at the updated masterplan on the frisco website or read the paper...of course both are probably a stretch for the average citizen here. It's going to be rather dense, especially now that brinkmann ranch is being added to the list of potential urban centers.

Frisco does a very good job of staying ahead of the curve though. I think they're handling everything pretty well, now if the bottom falls out of the economy frisco will get hit hard with a bunch of half built developments, hoping that doesn't happen. Between Legacy West, the haggard farm condo tower and the new frisco developments we're going to have something of a skyline up here. If they all develop as planned, and that's a big if...it will be rather spectacular. Unless you don't like dense development, then not so much.

That being said, I'm hoping for continued redevelop in west dallas as well as the Deep Ellum area. Collin County isn't anything without a strong downtown Dallas, downtown Dallas definately seems to be headed in the right direction though. If only they could work out something to connect Deep Ellum to downtown, don't think tearing down I-345 is a viable plan...great in theory but there's already gridlock down there, what do you do with those 250,000 vehicles that move through every day without creating more gridlock?
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Old 03-23-2015, 04:37 PM
 
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I've thought the same before; I wonder how much longer the Lege will watch all that money cross state lines OUT of Texas to Oklahoma and Louisiana before they jump on the casino train. I personally wouldn't have an issue with casinos in Texas, though I wouldn't want them anywhere near me due to traffic/light pollution concerns.
Which also makes me wonder where they would even build a Casino in the metroplex...maybe near the convention center, or somewhere in between Ft. Worth and Dallas, just like they did with the AT&T stadium...traffic would be crazy, and I think there would need to be a train stop at the casino as people would be drunk. There's already enough drunk drivers on the road in DFW as it is.
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Old 03-23-2015, 04:42 PM
 
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If the citizens are paying attention they will. All they have to do is look at the updated masterplan on the frisco website or read the paper...of course both are probably a stretch for the average citizen here. It's going to be rather dense, especially now that brinkmann ranch is being added to the list of potential urban centers.

Frisco does a very good job of staying ahead of the curve though. I think they're handling everything pretty well, now if the bottom falls out of the economy frisco will get hit hard with a bunch of half built developments, hoping that doesn't happen. Between Legacy West, the haggard farm condo tower and the new frisco developments we're going to have something of a skyline up here. If they all develop as planned, and that's a big if...it will be rather spectacular. Unless you don't like dense development, then not so much.

That being said, I'm hoping for continued redevelop in west dallas as well as the Deep Ellum area. Collin County isn't anything without a strong downtown Dallas, downtown Dallas definately seems to be headed in the right direction though. If only they could work out something to connect Deep Ellum to downtown, don't think tearing down I-345 is a viable plan...great in theory but there's already gridlock down there, what do you do with those 250,000 vehicles that move through every day without creating more gridlock?
You can barely get through the intersection of 121 and preston rd.as it is. Maybe the Brinkmann project will alleviate some of that congestion by pulling traffic north of that shopping district of Frisco. And, perhaps a Casino would connect Deep Ellum to Downtown?
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Old 03-23-2015, 06:04 PM
 
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I used to want Casino's to come to Dallas, but now I'm not sure where they would go. Maybe South Dallas? I'd love to see more activity there, I just don't want an abundance of Casino's to scare away other developments. Downtown dallas and all the surrounding neighborhoods are slowly, but surely adding residents and businesses everyday.

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If the citizens are paying attention they will. All they have to do is look at the updated masterplan on the frisco website or read the paper...of course both are probably a stretch for the average citizen here. It's going to be rather dense, especially now that brinkmann ranch is being added to the list of potential urban centers.
I'm sure there are plenty of well informed citizens in the area. I guess my comment was strictly anecdotal. I grew up in Plano, but me and most of my friends have left the area, so only people I know in the area are my parents and my friends' parents. Anyway, all of them have been in DFW since the 80s and just have never experienced a 'dense' Dallas. They have always been able to get in their cars and pretty easily drive where they need to go and park right outside of where they are going. I just don't think any of them think it is possible for an area like Plano/Frisco to be so dense to the point where people would need to start using public transportation. As I said though, this is strictly anecdotal, and it's based on such a small sample size, that it can't be indicative of the entire population.
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Old 03-23-2015, 07:37 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Which also makes me wonder where they would even build a Casino in the metroplex...maybe near the convention center, or somewhere in between Ft. Worth and Dallas, just like they did with the AT&T stadium...traffic would be crazy, and I think there would need to be a train stop at the casino as people would be drunk. There's already enough drunk drivers on the road in DFW as it is.
I don't think they should build one anywhere near DFW. Build it out in the middle of nowhere, and build a train going to it from here.
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Keller, Tx
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You can barely get through the intersection of 121 and preston rd.as it is. Maybe the Brinkmann project will alleviate some of that congestion by pulling traffic north of that shopping district of Frisco. And, perhaps a Casino would connect Deep Ellum to Downtown?
I go through there at rush hour all the time without many issues, just stay off preston. People from other cities drive on Preston, lol, namely Celina and Prosper. Locals know there are other roads that help you get around that area just fine. Don't mean to be snarky, but people say this all the time....I've lived here for five years, I had much worse issues with traffic when I lived in Wylie.
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:43 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I think we need to step back and evaluate. With the fast pace houses are being built, we can't keep up. Schools are busting at the seams, traffic is getting worse, and I have been here for two years!
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Old 03-23-2015, 10:14 PM
 
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It can't keep expanding outward at the pace it is currently doing. There is a limit to how far people will drive, and population increases, traffic will increase exponentially as the radius of the metroplex increases. I think there are certain areas that are mostly just cheap tract housing, but are currently in good school districts, that will diminish significantly. Good schools are a product of the people who live there generally, not so much the schools themselves, and as soon as those tract homes get about fifteen years on them, people with options are going to boogie. I would like to see some serious gentrification in more urban core areas. I would also like to see Dallas make better use of its natural resources for outdoor recreation opportunities. I'm not holding out for that, however.

Dallas is hot economically right now, but who knows if that will continue. I see no reason for it to stop, but there are a lot of dynamics at play here, and it's tough to predict the future. Dallas is a desirable area due to its cost of living versus economic opportunity balance, but add a couple million people and the equivalent spike in the cost of living, and that could change things.
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Old 03-24-2015, 07:09 AM
 
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I'm hoping more apartments will be built directly surrounding the Bishop Arts area and that the area in general becomes more dense and walkable, as opposed to people getting in their cars to visit the area and then leaving. I'd like to see more young professionals living in the area in general.

Bishop Arts loosely reminds me of a certain San Francisco neighborhood.
Does it remind you of Castro?
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Old 03-24-2015, 08:35 AM
 
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Does it remind you of Castro?
Yes! A tad bit. The shops and atmosphere in general are kind of similar. Like I've said before, I think the lack of apartments in walking distance to Bishop Ave. is what's holding the BAD back. I'm sure this will change in due time.

The demand for apartments is there, the Good Space properties are always at 100% capacity and the Magnolia at Bishop Arts property (801 and 908 Bishop Ave.) are at 100% capacity (even though they just recently opened and only have a total of 60 apartments I think)
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