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Old 05-12-2015, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I beg to differ about the huge, mature trees comparison though. The trees here do not grow nearly as tall as they do in Atlanta and surrounding areas.
Shhhh! Don't tell that to the monster trees in the ravine behind our townhouse! I grew up on the Gulf Coast, and lived in Birmingham, Atlanta and in S. Carolina as a younger adult.
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Old 05-13-2015, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Chisago Lakes, Minnesota
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Another thing Dallas has on Atlanta is a 2nd major airport. Love Field is the perfect alternative to the massive DFW setup. Most metros the size of DFW and Atlanta have 2 big, commercial airports. Just like the outer perimeter, though, Atlanta is lagging behind on getting it done. They've talked about putting another one out in Gwinnett somewhere, but it keeps getting shot down. People in Atlanta must like sitting in traffic, because they sure don't want their transportation systems expanded. They can't expect to keep growing at the rate they have been and not do something about it.
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Old 05-13-2015, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale az
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Another thing Dallas has on Atlanta is a 2nd major airport. Love Field is the perfect alternative to the massive DFW setup. Most metros the size of DFW and Atlanta have 2 big, commercial airports. Just like the outer perimeter, though, Atlanta is lagging behind on getting it done. They've talked about putting another one out in Gwinnett somewhere, but it keeps getting shot down. People in Atlanta must like sitting in traffic, because they sure don't want their transportation systems expanded. They can't expect to keep growing at the rate they have been and not do something about it.
No Ch*t, the lack of a grid system in Atlanta already adds to the problem. I saw growing cities like Charlotte, Denver have much better handle on their traffic issues and expansion. Good thing Dallas is not making the same mistake as Atlanta.
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Old 05-13-2015, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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No Ch*t, the lack of a grid system in Atlanta already adds to the problem. I saw growing cities like Charlotte, Denver have much better handle on their traffic issues and expansion. Good thing Dallas is not making the same mistake as Atlanta.
Yeah, easy to compare Denver with half the population of Atlanta and Charlotte with a third and their respective traffic situations. Charlotte's grid is about the same as Atlanta's. Atlanta's topography does not make for a grid system, Dallas's does. Having the outer loops here in DFW helps east/west movement among the burbs, something Atlanta sorely needs, but it really doesn't help north/south commutes from the northern burbs to the central city. Don't see much of a difference in Dallas traffic to Atlanta's in that regard.
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Old 05-13-2015, 11:22 AM
 
Location: O4W
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No Ch*t, the lack of a grid system in Atlanta already adds to the problem. I saw growing cities like Charlotte, Denver have much better handle on their traffic issues and expansion. Good thing Dallas is not making the same mistake as Atlanta.

We have too many trees and hills for a grid system.

I'd take these trees and hills over a grid system anyday

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8067...b8TMhVIlgQ!2e0


https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7736...ow!2e0!6m1!1e1

Why destroy land so beautiful
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Old 05-13-2015, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Chisago Lakes, Minnesota
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We have too many trees and hills for a grid system.

I'd take these trees and hills over a grid system anyday

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8067...b8TMhVIlgQ!2e0


https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7736...ow!2e0!6m1!1e1

Why destroy land so beautiful
Because the current system cannot accommodate the still rapidly growing population. The price of thriving and progression is that change becomes inevitable on many scales.....particularly that one.

If you don't want more roads, then you better find a way to stem the flow of folks moving in. Good luck with that.
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Old 05-13-2015, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Having the outer loops here in DFW helps east/west movement among the burbs, something Atlanta sorely needs, but it really doesn't help north/south commutes from the northern burbs to the central city. Don't see much of a difference in Dallas traffic to Atlanta's in that regard.
Dallas and its metro do have multiple N/S routes across the area, something ATL doesn't have. You're stuck with 75/85 all the way thru, most of that even without frontage roads.
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Old 05-13-2015, 12:31 PM
 
Location: O4W
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Because the current system cannot accommodate the still rapidly growing population. The price of thriving and progression is that change becomes inevitable on many scales.....particularly that one.

If you don't want more roads, then you better find a way to stem the flow of folks moving in. Good luck with that.

Our roads are fine generally speaking outside of rush hour. Most of our construction/growth for the most part is near MARTA which handles over 430k passengers each day. We are ok over here. Just worry about your city and we will worry about our stress free, no toll roads and no tornado warnings daily life here
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Old 05-13-2015, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale az
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Our roads are fine generally speaking outside of rush hour. Most of our construction/growth for the most part is near MARTA which handles over 430k passengers each day. We are ok over here. Just worry about your city and we will worry about our stress free, no toll roads and no tornado warnings daily life here
Not hating Atlanta cause my time there was pretty ok, but it took 1 hour to get home for a 18 min commute one time. Whats up with the ugly sprawl, how many nail salons, Publix, chick fil' a and Waffle houses does Atlanta need.
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Old 05-13-2015, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Chisago Lakes, Minnesota
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Our roads are fine generally speaking outside of rush hour. Most of our construction/growth for the most part is near MARTA which handles over 430k passengers each day. We are ok over here. Just worry about your city and we will worry about our stress free, no toll roads and no tornado warnings daily life here
Either you don't really live in Atlanta or you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Wouldn't surprise me if both were true at this point.
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