Dallas North Estates Plano - what can you tell me about this part of Plano? (Richardson: lease, HOA)

[SC2TX]

What can you tell me about Dallas North Estates in Plano? Found a house on MLS that fits our needs including price and has been vacant for a while. I will be talking with my realtor about it but wanted to know what you all have to say about this general area in Plano. Wondering is the location less desirable? Any insight helpful.

[MurphyPl1]

Can you be more specific? I live near east Plano and can't tell if you're talking about the part that is Jupiter and Parker.

[SC2TX]

The neighborhood called Dallas North Estates in Plano - West Park/Custer area.

[TheOverdog]

Dallas North Estates has two different areas - the first part that is next to Collin Creek Mall - it's a middle to lower middle income area, with front garages on many streets and houses that were built in the 1960s or so I would guess. I'm not exactly sure where it ends, but I would guess on Westwood Drive. This area is in serious freefall with the failure of Collin Creek Mall, but they are building nice new stuff adjacent (Heritage Creek development) which may stop the freefall. Elementary is Sigler, I'm not sure about middle or high school.


The other part is between Custer & Independence and Plano Parkway & 15th Street. It's slightly higher income and the houses are alright (many have terrible and relentless foundation problems). The houses have garages in the back, and the schools are Vines High, Wilson, and Shepard Elementary, and there is a city rec center Liberty in the neighborhood. Houses were built between 1970 or so and the 1980s. The surrounding area is not the best, but it is slowly improving. The surrounding retail is way oversized which leads to lots of vacancy. With that said, some of the nearby restaurants are fantastic - including Freds Cheesesteaks, Eddie's Pizza, and the new Thai and Asian places. Crime is pretty minor. The neighborhood grocery is a lousy old Albertsons, but at least it has one. The other part of Dallas North Estates has nothing.


Access to the rest of Plano and Richardson is the best thing these neighborhoods offer. Coit Road is close by, the Custer access to GBush and 75 is free and West Plano or Dallas are 10 minutes away.

Between them (east side of Custer) is a much higher income subdivision with custom houses. I don't know much about it.

Despite the (dumb) name, it is not in Dallas. It's in far south central Plano.

[DitsyD]

The neighborhood is older, but fine. It is less desirable for anyone wanting new, newer, newest; but, a solid neighborhood nonetheless. These homes are mostly from the 60s and were considered very nice when built. In my mind, as someone that grew up in Plano, these homes were bought by the white collar workers at TI and Collins Radio.

While Collin Creek seems to be in freefall, the neighborhood has great access to US75 and PGB Turnpike. Old downtown Plano is close, as is a DART station.

I think that it is zoned to Vines High School and Plano Senior High.

I haven't heard of any problems over there, and think that for certain budgets, it is a solid place to live.

If you do decided to buy there, you need to visit the Heritage Farmstead Museum at 15th and Custer. Learn a bit of Plano history.

[SC2TX]

The neighborhood name is odd given that it is in Plano and not Dallas. I am not looking for newer, newest home. Older is fine with us. I realize foundations are an issue to which I am paying close attention to Seller's Disclosure. The description of the area as given by Overdog is what I was after. Thanks. Indoor malls in general are not doing well and the older the mall with "has been" department stores as anchors (Sears, JCP..) are losing money.

[TheOverdog]

The neighborhood name is odd given that it is in Plano and not Dallas.

I'm guessing that Plano had no caché in 1965-1970, so they short-sightedly named it after Dallas. Fortunately, it's not really written down anywhere noticeable except some small street signs in the neighborhood near Alma and Collin Creek Mall. No neighborhood entry markers and no HOA display the neighborhood name.

Ditsy is right about the Heritage Farmstead. They have tons of events for children throughout the year, including flashlight Easter egg hunts and Christmas and autumn events if century old houses and farms aren't your thing.

[MediumHearted]

From an investor's point of view, that area holds AAA rating. As soon as CC Mall's lease ends, town is going to propose some mega project. That location is a goldmine and town is developing in a very aggressive manner.

[DitsyD]

Forget 1965-1970; Dallas North Estates #1 was platted in 1960. Plano was out in the boonies. Far, far away from Dallas.

Bit of trivia: The road now known as Plano Parkway, was initially known as Dallas North Parkway, abutting the southern edge of Dallas North Estates.
I think that the name changed when the Tollroad Authority decided to call the tollroad extension "Dallas Parkway". Too confusing, so the City of Plano changed it.

[TheOverdog]

Too confusing, so the City of Plano changed it.

The city that has major streets of Park (Boulevard) and Parker (Road) in close proximity to the major Dallas street Park Lane in a metro area with 35-E North and 35-E South all as unrelated streets thought Dallas Parkway vs North Dallas Parkway was too confusing? Hmmmm...