CityLine vs. Legacy (Dallas, Arlington, Plano: lease, tenants, living in)

[Wittgenstein's Ghost]

Originally Posted by TurtleCreek80

Well, you clearly hated it here and you now live in Chicago so you might not be the best person to give advice.

I know a guy who lived at the Shops and maybe filled up his car 1X per month. I think for a brief time he didn't even have a car and just relied on uber and his bike before he bought another car. If you work & live there as he did, you really only use the cat for groceries, Target runs, and going much further afar, like into Dallas for an event.

Why the hate? This forum is for information purposes, not just positive opinions. DFW is a terrible city to live in without driving. Sure, it can possibly be done, but it would be pretty difficult.

[TurtleCreek80]

Originally Posted by Wittgenstein's Ghost

Why the hate? This forum is for information purposes, not just positive opinions. DFW is a terrible city to live in without driving. Sure, it can possibly be done, but it would be pretty difficult.

While I completely agree that Dallas is a city where one needs a car, it IS possible for someone to live without driving very much if their work and living arrangements align perfectly within a walkable area (even an intentionally developed urban village like the Shops). Like the guy I know who lived at Shops and worked within walking distance (or a short bike in extreme hot/cold conditions), he was maybe driving 200 miles a month. That's about as good as you can get here.

I did not see the word "carless" in the OP but several posters including our former Arlington resident poster have used the word to talk about OP's friend's ideals.

[UnfairPark]

Originally Posted by TurtleCreek80

Plano is really big and not everyone works on Legacy. If OP works along the 75 corridor, I would not recommend living at the Shops to someone who dislikes driving.

Yeah. If he works on east side then no need to drive to Legacy, old downtown of Plano would be a better option, lots of good things happening there and he'll have DART so he can ditch his car for a bike if he wants to.

[stephenm85]

I might be butting in here but this seems like good advised. I know that Dallas is spread out but the areas that everyone is talking about wouldn't be bad for a walk or bike right. I live in middle of the city I live in and plan to move around the area OP is talking about come August or September. I don't have a car right now but I'm also not far from work. If I can find a job and apartment close enough to each other than I'm fine.

Also it depends on the person who is walking or riding a bike. I don't mind going 5 or 10 miles to get to work, I get to exercise and get outdoors allot. For a techie that's kinda a must for us :P

[jpushiys]

Originally Posted by MurphyPl1

A friend of mine just moved from Cityline over to Galytyn last month. The safety at Cityline is an issue. there were three break-ins in one week. And that had gotten far too common for her so she checked with the city on both complexes and decided to move.

Personally I think that area having so much Construction is contributing to the problem. It's very easy to blend in if you were there for no good. Lots of non-residents in and out all day long

Good info.. I assumed both places were equally safe and didn't even think to check. Can't rep u again..

Originally Posted by jdallas

Pretty good assessment. Also, Cityline still has the shrinkwrap on in places so it will continue to evolve in the next 5 years. At the moment, it's a bit of an island.
Regarding Legacy, the shiny and new Frisco Star live/work/play development is just a 10 min drive to the north.
http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/ne...dozen-new.html

Didn't even know about this.. will check it out, but might just be a tad beyond a comfortable driving distance... the guy will be at Plano Pkwy and Custer

Originally Posted by UnfairPark

Yeah. If he works on east side then no need to drive to Legacy, old downtown of Plano would be a better option, lots of good things happening there and he'll have DART so he can ditch his car for a bike if he wants to.

Another good option I didn't think of... probably the closest to where he wants to be ...

[Wittgenstein's Ghost]

Originally Posted by TurtleCreek80

While I completely agree that Dallas is a city where one needs a car, it IS possible for someone to live without driving very much if their work and living arrangements align perfectly within a walkable area (even an intentionally developed urban village like the Shops). Like the guy I know who lived at Shops and worked within walking distance (or a short bike in extreme hot/cold conditions), he was maybe driving 200 miles a month. That's about as good as you can get here.

I did not see the word "carless" in the OP but several posters including our former Arlington resident poster have used the word to talk about OP's friend's ideals.

I'm just saying that the other poster simply said something most people here would agree with: opportunity for a low-car lifestyle is not one of DFW's strengths. For some reason, you bit his or her head off and dismissed that opinion because that poster no longer lives here.

[TheOverdog]

Like others have been saying, you'll need a car unless you want to eat only at the restaurants and buy all of your groceries at Whole Foods

No. This is incorrect. You can take the train or a bike (it's like 2 miles at the most) up to next trainstop just north at downtown Plano, or the next to Parker Road, and have 3 different grocery stores (Tom Thumb, HMart, or a few different Mexican markets). You can also take the train from CityLine to the Shops at Park Lane (like 15 minutes of travel) to shop for whatever mid-market things you can't buy around CityLine (but probably will in 10 years) or cross the street to the Galleria.

No car required.

Lots of DFW is tough without a car, but this area is not Arlington.

BTW, the nearby Whole Foods is an 'urban' Whole Foods -it's barely a grocery store. It has way more space devoted to prepared foods than to cooking.

I'm not sure I'd choose to live in CityLine yet as the whole area is still a construction zone, but it is coming along and is moderately walkable.

[UnfairPark]

Originally Posted by jpushiys

Good info.. I assumed both places were equally safe and didn't even think to check. Can't rep u again..





Didn't even know about this.. will check it out, but might just be a tad beyond a comfortable driving distance... the guy will be at Plano Pkwy and Custer



Another good option I didn't think of... probably the closest to where he wants to be ...

For Plano Pkwy & Custer, go for Plano's old downtown. They have everything you need from grocery to dinning and theater to concerts. It's more affordable as well. If you are flexible then check bus schedule, you may find one going towards your work.

[TheOverdog]

For Plano Pkwy & Custer, go for Plano's old downtown. They have everything you need from grocery to dinning and theater to concerts. It's more affordable as well. If you are flexible then check bus schedule, you may find one going towards your work.

Or look into the brand new Heritage Creekside on GBush Turnpike & Plano Parkway, still mostly under construction. That area is unfortunately not the best in Plano, with failing Collin Creek Mall, poorly planned office, and not much else around (2 sides of the Plano Parkway & Custer intersection are empty lots), but hopefully a few years into the future it will be a more complete place to live.

It's crazy how sad that area is actually when once of the nicest neighborhoods in DFW is practically right across the GBush freeway in Richardson.

[UnfairPark]

Originally Posted by TheOverdog

Or look into the brand new Heritage Creekside on GBush Turnpike & Plano Parkway, still mostly under construction. That area is unfortunately not the best in Plano, with failing Collin Creek Mall, poorly planned office, and not much else around (2 sides of the Plano Parkway & Custer intersection are empty lots), but hopefully a few years into the future it will be a more complete place to live.

It's crazy how sad that area is actually when once of the nicest neighborhoods in DFW is practically right across the GBush freeway in Richardson.

City tried developing it but different stores in CC mall are owned by different companies and not all are on the same page. City is trying to get a developer who can get everyone on board once leases of current tenants end. City wants to utilize that creek and build trails and multipurpose buildings around it to make it beautiful and useful. It is going to be a downtown for central Plano. Both East and West have their own so central deserves one as well.