Conservative, but less conservative than FM, for kids (Dallas, Plano: real estate, houses)

[LMKH]

I live in Flower Mound. It is incredibly conservative to the point of being irritating, for me. I am conservative. But I do not identify as Republican. I would like to live in a place with good schools, basically conservative, but not THIS big business oriented. I feel like the people do not matter here, just the businesses. I think I would like Coppell, but, they have no orchestra in their schools which is important to us. I am worried that moving over to Plano or Allen would just be worse than what we have going on now. Moving west is not a possibility due to job location. I am not exactly looking for liberal, I am just looking for less big business, more people oriented, and environmentally friendly.

[TurtleCreek80]

The whole state of Texas is incredibly big-business oriented, with DFW leading the charge. Even the Democrat mayor of Dallas is incredibly big business oriented. Businesses like Toyota aren't relocating here for kicks; they're getting HUGE tax breaks. Huge swaths of the metroplex are able to be drilled for natural gas. I don't think you're going to see ANY measurable difference in Flower Mound vs Allen / Frisco / Plano. Maybe Coppell only because there's not as much land zoned for commercial there vs other suburbs?

If you want to be in a more liberal area, pull the 2016 presidential election results and see which areas voted for Clinton. "Environmentally friendly" and "small business oriented" really only point to a few select expensive parts of Dallas proper; for example Kessler Park / North Oak Cliff and Lakewood / Old East Dallas. Or areas of the metroplex with less growth & commercial...but then, do you really want to live in one of the low/no growth areas? They tend to require major compromise in school quality and/or safety.

Out of curiosity, where else (outside DFW/ TX) have you lived that embodies what you are seeking?

[LMKH]

Originally Posted by TurtleCreek80

The whole state of Texas is incredibly big-business oriented, with DFW leading the charge. Even the Democrat mayor of Dallas is incredibly big business oriented. Businesses like Toyota aren't relocating here for kicks; they're getting HUGE tax breaks. Huge swaths of the metroplex are able to be drilled for natural gas. I don't think you're going to see ANY measurable difference in Flower Mound vs Allen / Frisco / Plano. Maybe Coppell only because there's not as much land zoned for commercial there vs other suburbs?

If you want to be in a more liberal area, pull the 2016 presidential election results and see which areas voted for Clinton. "Environmentally friendly" and "small business oriented" really only point to a few select expensive parts of Dallas proper; for example Kessler Park / North Oak Cliff and Lakewood / Old East Dallas. Or areas of the metroplex with less growth & commercial...but then, do you really want to live in one of the low/no growth areas? They tend to require major compromise in school quality and/or safety.

Out of curiosity, where else (outside DFW/ TX) have you lived that embodies what you are seeking?

North of Los Angeles area. LOVED it!!! Up near Thousand Oaks. I did not like Orange County, which was prissy and uptight. I like laid back, free thinking, independent, while having children who know how to wear clothes that cover their bodies, speak with proper grammar, and use manners. I do not know what Ventura county is like now, but, that is an idea as to where I liked years ago.

[Katana49]

I think you can find what you're seeking in Plano, as they have large areas where certain ethnic groups have moved en masse, and they typically don't care about politics as much as whites seem to. There are certain neighborhoods with large numbers of asians, certain neighborhoods with a concentration of indians, etc. North of Deerfield comes to mind.

I also think McKinney could fit the bill for the same reasons, it's got enclaves that are very diverse, and McKinney residents are very proud of their downtown area and "Mom and Pop" shop vibe. Definitely not all about big business.

[mSooner]

Maybe Coppell only because there's not as much land zoned for commercial there vs other suburbs?

Near a 1/3 of the City of Coppell is zoned commercial and home to (very nice) warehouses for companies like Amazon. It's no different here than any other suburb.

What you want doesn't exist in DFW.

[calgirlinnc]

Sounds like Flower Mound would be great for us. The more conservative the better.

[thenewtexan]

I read recently that 60 percent of Flower Mound residents were non-Texas natives. On a national scale, high incomes, high educational attainment, but real estate prices are low compared to other towns nationwide of similar demographics. It makes sense that there would be pro-business fiscal conservatives relocating to Texas looking for the most bang for their buck. It sounds like the OP might be better off in a place with a little more character like Richardson, Coppell, Grapevine or even (central) Plano.

[timtemtym]

Originally Posted by LMKH

North of Los Angeles area. LOVED it!!! Up near Thousand Oaks. I did not like Orange County, which was prissy and uptight. I like laid back, free thinking, independent, while having children who know how to wear clothes that cover their bodies, speak with proper grammar, and use manners. I do not know what Ventura county is like now, but, that is an idea as to where I liked years ago.

Yep, it's still like that. I live in Woodland Hills and enjoy going out in Thousand Oaks and Simi (BEST movie theater up there). There isn't really a place in DFW comparable because so much of Ventura Co. is protected natural areas. You don't have the huge hills in DFW or the mega celebrities (Calabassas environs) and high wealth people.

That's not a knock on DFW. I'm debating moving there myself in a year or two. I like the North Dallas suburbs. Honestly. I think what you're looking for ideologically is all over the area out there, it's more about the people with whom you connect. I know lots of "family-friendly" people who aren't crazy hateful evangelicals and also recycle. I'd advise finding a different social circle. It's not like LA where you're limited to your bubble due to soul-crushing traffic.

[calgirlinnc]

Originally Posted by timtemtym

Yep, it's still like that. I live in Woodland Hills and enjoy going out in Thousand Oaks and Simi (BEST movie theater up there). There isn't really a place in DFW comparable because so much of Ventura Co. is protected natural areas. You don't have the huge hills in DFW or the mega celebrities (Calabassas environs) and high wealth people.

That's not a knock on DFW. I'm debating moving there myself in a year or two. I like the North Dallas suburbs. Honestly. I think what you're looking for ideologically is all over the area out there, it's more about the people with whom you connect. I know lots of "family-friendly" people who aren't crazy hateful evangelicals and also recycle. I'd advise finding a different social circle. It's not like LA where you're limited to your bubble due to soul-crushing traffic.

Nice stereotyping.

Most evangelicals (by which you mean Christians) are not "hateful".

[Gravy Train]

Now I know why this bumper sticker exists.