For the complainers.......DFW COL v. pay rates near the top among large metros - and yes the data is fresh. (McKinney: home sales, buying)

[kyam11]

Originally Posted by Hacker1234

DFW is expensive for what the city has to offer.

Whoa whoa whoa. Be careful.

Wittgenstein has a real issue with you saying this. Expensive can mean many different things to many different people. Please put in 1000 qualifiers as to what you mean.

[Hacker1234]

Ok id rather be broke on the beach.

[Wittgenstein's Ghost]

Originally Posted by kyam11

Whoa whoa whoa. Be careful.

Wittgenstein has a real issue with you saying this. Expensive can mean many different things to many different people. Please put in 1000 qualifiers as to what you mean.

No, you are the person who has a problem with that sort of statement. Not me. I think "expensive" is inherently subjective, so if Hacker thinks DFW costs a lot relative to what he thinks it provides, that's a perfectly acceptable statement. You are the one who thinks Hacker's statement can be objectively verified by looking at COL statistics.

Don't get our positions confused here.

[kyam11]

Originally Posted by Wittgenstein's Ghost

No, you are the person who has a problem with that sort of statement. Not me. I think "expensive" is inherently subjective, so if Hacker thinks DFW costs a lot relative to what he thinks it provides, that's a perfectly acceptable statement. You are the one who thinks Hacker's statement can be objectively verified by looking at COL statistics.

Don't get our positions confused here.

If you have a problem with me saying DFW is cheap then you also have to have a problem with saying DFW is expensive.

If you were only half as smart as you think you are. Either way I simply don't give a crap anymore. Nit pick away. You are obsessed with me. I get it.

In your world DFW is cheap, DFW is expensive, DFW is moderately priced its all Ok.

[Wittgenstein's Ghost]

Originally Posted by kyam11

If you have a problem with me saying DFW is cheap then you also have to have a problem with saying DFW is expensive.

If you were only half as smart as you think you are. Either way I simply don't give a crap anymore. Nit pick away. You are obsessed with me. I get it.

I don't have a problem with you saying DFW is cheap. I have a problem with you thinking that COL statistics disprove the statement "DFW is expensive."

You are responding to me just as much as I'm responding to you. You wanted to play the nit-pick game. You've just lost now, and you're bitter about it.

[kyam11]

Originally Posted by Wittgenstein's Ghost

I don't have a problem with you saying DFW is cheap. I have a problem with you thinking that COL statistics disprove the statement "DFW is expensive."

You are responding to me just as much as I'm responding to you. You wanted to play the nit-pick game. You've just lost now, and you're bitter about it.

I'm not bitter at all. I just think it is funny that I can read 20+ posts you have made where you have made statements that are similar to statements I have made with your own criteria applied and generalizing or in other words where you make an absolute statement even though someone's criteria might differ from yours. You just decide to nitpick mine. The problem is whatever you think I do you do the exact same thing.

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by Wittgenstein's Ghost

I don't have a problem with you saying DFW is cheap. I have a problem with you thinking that COL statistics disprove the statement "DFW is expensive."

OMG sometimes you are like a one man comedy routine. And you to think you just accused kyam11 of abusing semantics. Your disdain for high confidence quantitative data and preference for and defense of vacuous qualitative wording is at best odd. I like to argue too but come on.

DFW being demonstrably less expensive vs. most peer cities trumps qualitative "DFW is expensive" claims. Sure DFW is expensive for many people the carryover is most big cites would be more so for the same people.

[Katana49]

There's a couple people in this thread who never get invited to any parties.

They know who they are LOL

[Wittgenstein's Ghost]

Originally Posted by EDS_

OMG sometimes you are like a one man comedy routine. And you to think you just accused kyam11 of abusing semantics. Your disdain for high confidence quantitative data and preference for and defense of vacuous qualitative wording is at best odd. I like to argue too but come on.

I only prefer qualitative reasoning when words are inherently qualitative. If someone said "DFW is the most expensive city," that is an entirely different claim, and it can be disproved with quantitative evidence. If someone said "DFW is expensive," that is an inherently subjective claim. "Expensive" is defined as "at great cost." To say that is a quantitative claim is to say that the word "great" has objective meaning. It does not.

Originally Posted by EDS_

DFW being demonstrably less expensive vs. most peer cities trumps qualitative "DFW is expensive" claims. Sure DFW is expensive for many people the carryover is most big cites would be more so for the same people.

It is entirely possible that most big cities are "expensive" to a person. Thus, I don't see the rub.

[justsomeguy]

This thread is amusing.

Seems like everyone is just talking around each other.

Personally, I thought that the pro-"Dallas is not expensive" people qualified their statement by default, by including the statistical info about other comparable metro areas as their frame of reference for the subjective term "expensive".

Arguing that "Dallas may be expensive for some people" or "Dallas is now expensive" isn't very meaningful to this thread, as the frame of reference used wasn't people's personal experiences, or Dallas 6 years ago, or smaller metro areas - the frame of reference used was other comparable large metro areas.

I mean, you can object to just about any statement if you want to try and invalidate it by using relativity. Rich, poor, expensive, beautiful, entertaining, all of these are meaningless terms unless you provide a frame of reference for them. In this case, the frame of reference was provided (comparable metro areas).

Judgment for the defendant in the amount of $0.