National Merit Semifinalists 2018 (Dallas, Austin, Plano: appointed, colleges, camps)

[UnfairPark]

Originally Posted by BLDSoon

Asian-American students comprise about 20% of Ivy league students more or less. That far exceeds their general population in the United States.

Legacy admits include all sorts (Including Asians) and that number was at 30% for Harvard last year.

The above numbers do not include international students who are a large majority Asian and comprise of about 15% of the student body at the Ivies.

So yes, i think that's plenty of pie. These complaints would have merit if there weren't already so many Asian students attending these schools.

Not getting into Harvard is not getting into Harvard. 95% of those that try, dont. Cry me a river.

They may be applying for themselves, but anyone intelligent enough to apply to an Ivy should know that a school that admits 5/6% of its applicants is highly likely to reject them irrespective of credentials and should have a plan B. The educational world should be that kids oyster especially if highly qualified. Plan B should be another just as good maybe better school...not whining and a frivolous lawsuit.

Are you trying to tell American kids of Asian ancestry that although they were born here, call it home, their families lived here for three generations, sign up for draft, somehow they fall into same Asian quota as international Asian students?

[BLDSoon]

Originally Posted by UnfairPark

Are you trying to tell American kids of Asian ancestry that although they were born here, call it home, their families lived here for three generations, sign up for draft, somehow they fall into same Asian quota as international Asian students?

Hmmm let me think about this...

Yes. Yes they do. Same as everyone else. See how that works? Everyone fills out the equity questionnaire. Everyone gets cherry picked, everyone gets rejected.

[jiping]

It is a lost cause to ask Asian parents to diversify the goals they have for their children.
Asian tiger parents just have one goal - to better their next generation, and to meet any tangible standard.
They have already started to let their kids learn musical instruments and join in sports since these are also part of requirements for college admission, in addition to A+ GPA.
The youngest US men's national figure skating champion, who just won another international championship for US in SLC this month, is an Asian.
Soon you will have to set quota for everything.

Some Democrats are smarter.
Instead of blatantly telling Asians to F off, they invented a new scheme called "specified API (Asian groups and Pacific Islander) groups".
The main idea is, since Chinese and Indians are outstanding among API groups, they should be subject to a second layer of affirmative actions. If a 20-percent-quota is assigned to all Asians, Chinese and Indian groups can only get a small portion of them, like 3% each.
In this way, the better Asian students can be effectively targeted and limited, in the name of diversity.

Bills allowing data aggregation for specified API have already passed in some blue states including CA. If @BLDSoon is so scared of Asians, you had better call some democratic representatives in Texas now.

[UnfairPark]

Originally Posted by BLDSoon

Hmmm let me think about this...

Yes. Yes they do. Same as everyone else. See how that works? Everyone fills out the equity questionnaire. Everyone gets cherry picked, everyone gets rejected.

Just google academic statistics for different demographics and you'll know how it works.

[UnfairPark]

LOL at this thread. First it got derailed by Dragons and now Asians. Let's end it by acknowledging great achievement of our DFW children, no matter if they have tiger moms or alligator dads. In the end it's their hard work that earned this honor.

[MurphyPl1]

We are nothing if not really good at tangents

[BLDSoon]

Originally Posted by jiping

It is a lost cause to ask Asian parents to diversify the goals they have for their children.
Asian tiger parents just have one goal - to better their next generation, and to meet any tangible standard.
They have already started to let their kids learn musical instruments and join in sports since these are also part of requirements for college admission, in addition to A+ GPA.
The youngest US men's national figure skating champion, who just won another international championship for US in SLC this month, is an Asian.
Soon you will have to set quota for everything.

Some Democrats are smarter.
Instead of blatantly telling Asians to F off, they invented a new scheme called "specified API (Asian groups and Pacific Islander) groups".
The main idea is, since Chinese and Indians are outstanding among API groups, they should be subject to a second layer of affirmative actions. If a 20-percent-quota is assigned to all Asians, Chinese and Indian groups can only get a small portion of them, like 3% each.
In this way, the better Asian students can be effectively targeted and limited, in the name of diversity.

Bills allowing data aggregation for specified API have already passed in some blue states including CA. If @BLDSoon is so scared of Asians, you had better call some democratic representatives in Texas now.

LOL @ scared of Asians. Sure.

[synchronicity]

Originally Posted by UnfairPark

LOL at this thread. First it got derailed by Dragons and now Asians. Let's end it by acknowledging great achievement of our DFW children, no matter if they have tiger moms or alligator dads. In the end it's their hard work that earned this honor.

Dragons and Tigers and scores, oh my!

[stan4]

Originally Posted by BLDSoon

I dont see it as a bias. The Ivy's recognized a disparity and attempted to fix it. Otherwise we all know their entire freshman classes would comprise of legacies and Asians.


.(Ironically due to the fact that so many of them qualify). That said, they are still the largest minority group in any Ivies or top academic schools of any sort by far. They really shouldn't complain much.

t.

Routinely knocking down points off your SAT score just for being Asian is definitely demonstrating a bias.

And if you were not aware that this is occurring, then your opinion on whether or not Asians should or should not be admitted to Ivy League schools or should not should not be angry about not being admitted Ivy League schools is completely irrelevant. Because this is a big piece of it.

If it were simply about not taking a student because they weren't well-rounded enough, then they wouldn't have to knock the points off their SAT score.

[stan4]

Originally Posted by UnfairPark

LOL at this thread. First it got derailed by Dragons and now Asians. Let's end it by acknowledging great achievement of our DFW children, no matter if they have tiger moms or alligator dads. In the end it's their hard work that earned this honor.

My favorite thing about you and EDS and BLDsoon is your ability to intelligently go off on tangents...lol.