Dallas officer involved in fatal shooting (Howe, Van: lease, vs., safety)

[acrackl]

This could be the story for tomorrow or not - the protesters have been jailed longer than the Officer who shot and killed a person ...

https://mobile.twitter.com/shaunking...96150259535872

[Ralph_Kirk]

Originally Posted by PriscillaVanilla

I wonder if there will be riots in Dallas.

Nah, too hot to riot in Dallas.

And sometimes there is a bit of justice. Just last month a cop in Dallas got convicted of murdering a black teen.

We're still waiting to see what happens with this new black female police chief. To be honest, the situation is not as bad in Dallas with regard to overall police versus blacks as it is in many places. That's not to say that many individual police officers aren't racist, but the former police chief was black, the new one is black, and the climate isn't as bad as it could be.

When BLM came to Dallas, it rather fizzled out into a mutual love fest (although it ended in bloodshed, but that was clearly one crazy guy--and the black police chief gave the order to take him out.

[Jaggy001]

This has the potential to cause serious trouble both in terms of civil unrest, political damage, PR damage and reputational damage because the circumstances of the shooting and the nature of the victim has united opinion across the racial and social divide.

The authorities have not helped themselves by the relatively inept way they are handling it. Three days to arrest Guyger, out of jail after an hour, still employed by the PD, a blatantly transparent attempt to smear Jean, manslaughter instead of murder, etc. etc.. There is a whiff of police and prosecutorial corruption in the air.

Put simply, Guyger has to go to jail for the sake of the police department, the prosecutors, the mayor, etc.. That is the only way they can save face and say that justice has been served.

That is why it is manslaughter and not murder. That way, Guyger can get a plea deal, plead guilty and be out in a couple of years.

[numbersguy100]

Originally Posted by Mr. Ryu

Say what? What cities/states do you live that would allow that??

That would allow the landlord to enter your apt without your permission or acknowledgement?

In NYC, if the landlord needs to enter my apt they would call or email and instruct me to leave the top lock unlock so they could enter the apt. They have the keys to the bottom lock.

You’re not in New York anymore. I am not sure why you would assume anything about real estate leasing laws or tenant rights elsewhere just because they are a certain way in NYC. This is Texas where tenants have very, very few rights, and basically no one to prosecute the offenders if they violate them.

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by Mr. Ryu

In NYC, a super or landlord would need permission to enter an apt. The top lock belongs to the renter and the bottom lock belongs to the landlord.

Yea no. FWIIW my wife and I have owned a place in NYC for many years. The building super may enter at his discretion in the event of a water leak, smoke, power issue, bouncing washing machine and a thousand other things and only call us later. This has occurred several times over the years.

[oceangaia]

Originally Posted by Ralph_Kirk

I dunno about New York, but I've never seen an apartment in Texas that had two separate locks.

There are circumstances in Texas in which an apartment can be entered even with the tenant's express refusal...those would be certain health and safety situations, such as vermin eradication.

Or emergency maintenance. If you're pipes burst and the apartments below are getting flooded, do you think they are going to wait until you get home from work or worse, back from vacation?

[yjc281]

Originally Posted by Jaggy001

This has the potential to cause serious trouble both in terms of civil unrest, political damage, PR damage and reputational damage because the circumstances of the shooting and the nature of the victim has united opinion across the racial and social divide.

The authorities have not helped themselves by the relatively inept way they are handling it. Three days to arrest Guyger, out of jail after an hour, still employed by the PD, a blatantly transparent attempt to smear Jean, manslaughter instead of murder, etc. etc.. There is a whiff of police and prosecutorial corruption in the air.

Put simply, Guyger has to go to jail for the sake of the police department, the prosecutors, the mayor, etc.. That is the only way they can save face and say that justice has been served.

That is why it is manslaughter and not murder. That way, Guyger can get a plea deal, plead guilty and be out in a couple of years.

To be realistic, given the lack of evidence manslaughter actually may be a safer bet than murder...unless there are new evidences to prove the intent. At least having a trigger happy cop leave the force would be good for the society and may save more lives in the future.


Compare to previous cases:
In the case of philando castile, the suspect was found not guilty but accepted the buyout to leave the police force:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...out/466918001/


In another case, the suspect was convicted and fired, then sentenced to clean toilets:
https://abc7ny.com/news/exclusive-se...ilets/1346176/

[jencam]

Going for murder would make for a sure not guilty vote from the jury.

[EcoDeb]

Originally Posted by jencam

Going for murder would make for a sure not guilty vote from the jury.

I agree. Can they force a lie detector test? This young man would be the age of my son, i feel for his mother and the pain she must be experiencing because an officer of the LAW made a bizarre mistake?

[Mr. Ryu]

Originally Posted by EDS_

Yea no. FWIIW my wife and I have owned a place in NYC for many years. The building super may enter at his discretion in the event of a water leak, smoke, power issue, bouncing washing machine and a thousand other things and only call us later. This has occurred several times over the years.

The only time a super/landlord can enter an apt in NYC is the below. You should have read up on your rights.
A bouncing washing machine?? you left a washing machine unattended and the super had to go into your apt to shut it down??

9. Can my landlord enter my apartment at any time?
Generally no. However, a landlord may enter a tenant's apartment in some situations. For example, the landlord can enter your apartment:

At a reasonable time after providing appropriate notice if the entry is either
To provide necessary or agreed upon repairs or services, or
In accordance with the lease, or
To show the apartment to prospective tenants or purchasers; and
In an emergency, at any time and without notice.

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/hpd/renter...faqs.page#faq9